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What's not being spoken about is the clusterfuck going in that beloved part of the United Kingdom: Northern Ireland. The DUP and Sinn Fein are failing to find common ground (Belfast, baby!) and, amid a scandal ridden Unionist party and a typically intractable Republican (decent Irish republican, not racist American repubs) party, we're in real danger of direct rule reverting to Westminster, which nobody wants and nobody can do anything to stop. Remember: May is only Prime Minister thanks to her dirty deal with the bigoted and hateful conservative DUP. If anything changes around Stormont, if any of the 10 DUP MPs lose a by election or decide to withdraw from the not called a coalition--coaltion the Tories are fucked.
May has no authority over her party. That's common knowledge. But it's really been brought home by the instant revulsion shown in the press by conservatives briefing against Gavin Williamson, the odious little climbing prick who she trusts but everyone hates, as the new Defence Secretary. No one is directly challenging her because nobody wants to deal with the Gordian knot of Brexit, or its inevitable failure on their reputation.
These sex predators are going to be continued to be unmasked. I have a copy of the spreadsheet Gavin Williamson compiled and 36 gropers and cheaters (and blackmailable homosexuals and people with unusual fetishes) are named. PMs have always had these to use as leverage, but the good news is that sitting on this information and not acting has become socially unacceptable. Williamson can't last long in his role because he's a) hated by the powerful and b).utterly culpable in leaving the guilty unpunished. The bones that the Press have thrown out are relatively small fry compared to what else is on the list. They're trying to seen to be tough on old pervs like Fallon so people will stop biting after bigger game. Boris is mentioned on the list, for example.
Could this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
May has no authority over her party. That's common knowledge. But it's really been brought home by the instant revulsion shown in the press by conservatives briefing against Gavin Williamson, the odious little climbing prick who she trusts but everyone hates, as the new Defence Secretary. No one is directly challenging her because nobody wants to deal with the Gordian knot of Brexit, or its inevitable failure on their reputation.
These sex predators are going to be continued to be unmasked. I have a copy of the spreadsheet Gavin Williamson compiled and 36 gropers and cheaters (and blackmailable homosexuals and people with unusual fetishes) are named. PMs have always had these to use as leverage, but the good news is that sitting on this information and not acting has become socially unacceptable. Williamson can't last long in his role because he's a) hated by the powerful and b).utterly culpable in leaving the guilty unpunished. The bones that the Press have thrown out are relatively small fry compared to what else is on the list. They're trying to seen to be tough on old pervs like Fallon so people will stop biting after bigger game. Boris is mentioned on the list, for example.
Could this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
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I hope to see some of the Peers and Lords brought down. But then I would like to win the lottery also.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amWhat's not being spoken about is the clusterfuck going in that beloved part of the United Kingdom: Northern Ireland. The DUP and Sinn Fein are failing to find common ground (Belfast, baby!) and, amid a scandal ridden Unionist party and a typically intractable Republican (decent Irish republican, not racist American repubs) party, we're in real danger of direct rule reverting to Westminster, which nobody wants and nobody can do anything to stop. Remember: May is only Prime Minister thanks to her dirty deal with the bigoted and hateful conservative DUP. If anything changes around Stormont, if any of the 10 DUP MPs lose a by election or decide to withdraw from the not called a coalition--coaltion the Tories are fucked.
May has no authority over her party. That's common knowledge. But it's really been brought home by the instant revulsion shown in the press by conservatives briefing against Gavin Williamson, the odious little climbing prick who she trusts but everyone hates, as the new Defence Secretary. No one is directly challenging her because nobody wants to deal with the Gordian knot of Brexit, or its inevitable failure on their reputation.
These sex predators are going to be continued to be unmasked. I have a copy of the spreadsheet Gavin Williamson compiled and 36 gropers and cheaters (and blackmailable homosexuals and people with unusual fetishes) are named. PMs have always had these to use as leverage, but the good news is that sitting on this information and not acting has become socially unacceptable. Williamson can't last long in his role because he's a) hated by the powerful and b).utterly culpable in leaving the guilty unpunished. The bones that the Press have thrown out are relatively small fry compared to what else is on the list. They're trying to seen to be tough on old pervs like Fallon so people will stop biting after bigger game. Boris is mentioned on the list, for example.
Could this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
The DUP are a bunch of very bad bedfellows. May and her two bob pretentious government will rue the day they jumped into bed with them.
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Some real dark shit up at that House of Lords, love to see them brought down. Really, this government has been limping along praying for death since that election they were so positive they were going to crush. If less was at stake, I could enjoy it.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:12amI hope to see some of the Peers and Lords brought down. But then I would like to win the lottery also.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amWhat's not being spoken about is the clusterfuck going in that beloved part of the United Kingdom: Northern Ireland. The DUP and Sinn Fein are failing to find common ground (Belfast, baby!) and, amid a scandal ridden Unionist party and a typically intractable Republican (decent Irish republican, not racist American repubs) party, we're in real danger of direct rule reverting to Westminster, which nobody wants and nobody can do anything to stop. Remember: May is only Prime Minister thanks to her dirty deal with the bigoted and hateful conservative DUP. If anything changes around Stormont, if any of the 10 DUP MPs lose a by election or decide to withdraw from the not called a coalition--coaltion the Tories are fucked.
May has no authority over her party. That's common knowledge. But it's really been brought home by the instant revulsion shown in the press by conservatives briefing against Gavin Williamson, the odious little climbing prick who she trusts but everyone hates, as the new Defence Secretary. No one is directly challenging her because nobody wants to deal with the Gordian knot of Brexit, or its inevitable failure on their reputation.
These sex predators are going to be continued to be unmasked. I have a copy of the spreadsheet Gavin Williamson compiled and 36 gropers and cheaters (and blackmailable homosexuals and people with unusual fetishes) are named. PMs have always had these to use as leverage, but the good news is that sitting on this information and not acting has become socially unacceptable. Williamson can't last long in his role because he's a) hated by the powerful and b).utterly culpable in leaving the guilty unpunished. The bones that the Press have thrown out are relatively small fry compared to what else is on the list. They're trying to seen to be tough on old pervs like Fallon so people will stop biting after bigger game. Boris is mentioned on the list, for example.
Could this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
The DUP are a bunch of very bad bedfellows. May and her two bob pretentious government will rue the day they jumped into bed with them.
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Yep totally agree mate car crash politics is good for no one. I'm sick to death of the media that surrounds politicians turning them into 5 minute celebrities when we vote for policies not persons. I couldn't give a rat's arse what nice looking shoes Theresa May has on her feet when people are waiting for somewhere to live since their homes in a tower block burned down.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:26amSome real dark shit up at that House of Lords, love to see them brought down. Really, this government has been limping along praying for death since that election they were so positive they were going to crush. If less was at stake, I could enjoy it.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:12amI hope to see some of the Peers and Lords brought down. But then I would like to win the lottery also.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amWhat's not being spoken about is the clusterfuck going in that beloved part of the United Kingdom: Northern Ireland. The DUP and Sinn Fein are failing to find common ground (Belfast, baby!) and, amid a scandal ridden Unionist party and a typically intractable Republican (decent Irish republican, not racist American repubs) party, we're in real danger of direct rule reverting to Westminster, which nobody wants and nobody can do anything to stop. Remember: May is only Prime Minister thanks to her dirty deal with the bigoted and hateful conservative DUP. If anything changes around Stormont, if any of the 10 DUP MPs lose a by election or decide to withdraw from the not called a coalition--coaltion the Tories are fucked.
May has no authority over her party. That's common knowledge. But it's really been brought home by the instant revulsion shown in the press by conservatives briefing against Gavin Williamson, the odious little climbing prick who she trusts but everyone hates, as the new Defence Secretary. No one is directly challenging her because nobody wants to deal with the Gordian knot of Brexit, or its inevitable failure on their reputation.
These sex predators are going to be continued to be unmasked. I have a copy of the spreadsheet Gavin Williamson compiled and 36 gropers and cheaters (and blackmailable homosexuals and people with unusual fetishes) are named. PMs have always had these to use as leverage, but the good news is that sitting on this information and not acting has become socially unacceptable. Williamson can't last long in his role because he's a) hated by the powerful and b).utterly culpable in leaving the guilty unpunished. The bones that the Press have thrown out are relatively small fry compared to what else is on the list. They're trying to seen to be tough on old pervs like Fallon so people will stop biting after bigger game. Boris is mentioned on the list, for example.
Could this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
The DUP are a bunch of very bad bedfellows. May and her two bob pretentious government will rue the day they jumped into bed with them.
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Given the clusterfuck of Brexit and national politics in its wake, is there any plausible scenario where Labour, upon forming govt, can call for a new referendum? Or are things so far gone in the negotiations with the EU that it'd be an empty exercise even if a vote could be held?Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amCould this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
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No, the EU's position has consistently been that we can drop thia whole silly idea at any point before the final papers are signed. Corbyn is a Bennite, a disciple of the Labour-left MP Tony Benn who was famously sceptical of the neoliberal EU due to socialism being illegal under its the rules and may see Brexit for the best in the long-term. For now, its a major electoral risk to come out heavily as anti-Brexit. The Lib Dems were wiped out on that platform in this year's election and it'll take a major paradigm shift for that to change, i think.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:35pmGiven the clusterfuck of Brexit and national politics in its wake, is there any plausible scenario where Labour, upon forming govt, can call for a new referendum? Or are things so far gone in the negotiations with the EU that it'd be an empty exercise even if a vote could be held?Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amCould this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
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Yeah, I knew Corbyn was a deep skeptic of the EU, and for sensible reasons, but the disruptions and pain it'll have on the weakest in society would, I hope, give pause. It's two ugly choices either way.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:47pmNo, the EU's position has consistently been that we can drop thia whole silly idea at any point before the final papers are signed. Corbyn is a Bennite, a disciple of the Labour-left MP Tony Benn who was famously sceptical of the neoliberal EU due to socialism being illegal under its the rules and may see Brexit for the best in the long-term. For now, its a major electoral risk to come out heavily as anti-Brexit. The Lib Dems were wiped out on that platform in this year's election and it'll take a major paradigm shift for that to change, i think.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:35pmGiven the clusterfuck of Brexit and national politics in its wake, is there any plausible scenario where Labour, upon forming govt, can call for a new referendum? Or are things so far gone in the negotiations with the EU that it'd be an empty exercise even if a vote could be held?Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amCould this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
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Yeah fingers crossed really.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 1:00pmYeah, I knew Corbyn was a deep skeptic of the EU, and for sensible reasons, but the disruptions and pain it'll have on the weakest in society would, I hope, give pause. It's two ugly choices either way.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:47pmNo, the EU's position has consistently been that we can drop thia whole silly idea at any point before the final papers are signed. Corbyn is a Bennite, a disciple of the Labour-left MP Tony Benn who was famously sceptical of the neoliberal EU due to socialism being illegal under its the rules and may see Brexit for the best in the long-term. For now, its a major electoral risk to come out heavily as anti-Brexit. The Lib Dems were wiped out on that platform in this year's election and it'll take a major paradigm shift for that to change, i think.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:35pmGiven the clusterfuck of Brexit and national politics in its wake, is there any plausible scenario where Labour, upon forming govt, can call for a new referendum? Or are things so far gone in the negotiations with the EU that it'd be an empty exercise even if a vote could be held?Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amCould this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
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The bigger problem as I see it is if Labour were to hold another referendum (I'm all for that) is that it's democracy out of the window if the majority voted out. It was a narrow margin yes but it was a margin that should be respected however bloody stupid it seems. If there was some form of sensible compromise where the UK could work alongside the EU and sort out the problems instead of just turning our backs on them and running then maybe.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 1:00pmYeah, I knew Corbyn was a deep skeptic of the EU, and for sensible reasons, but the disruptions and pain it'll have on the weakest in society would, I hope, give pause. It's two ugly choices either way.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:47pmNo, the EU's position has consistently been that we can drop thia whole silly idea at any point before the final papers are signed. Corbyn is a Bennite, a disciple of the Labour-left MP Tony Benn who was famously sceptical of the neoliberal EU due to socialism being illegal under its the rules and may see Brexit for the best in the long-term. For now, its a major electoral risk to come out heavily as anti-Brexit. The Lib Dems were wiped out on that platform in this year's election and it'll take a major paradigm shift for that to change, i think.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:35pmGiven the clusterfuck of Brexit and national politics in its wake, is there any plausible scenario where Labour, upon forming govt, can call for a new referendum? Or are things so far gone in the negotiations with the EU that it'd be an empty exercise even if a vote could be held?Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amCould this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
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Of course the pro-Brexit side would feel their success the first time was being shivved. But it seems a bit perverse, when people's influence on public policy has been steadily eroded for decades, that a referendum with likely horrendous consequences for the most marginalized must now be respected in the name of the people. The autocrats are cackling away.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 1:31pmThe bigger problem as I see it is if Labour were to hold another referendum (I'm all for that) is that it's democracy out of the window if the majority voted out. It was a narrow margin yes but it was a margin that should be respected however bloody stupid it seems. If there was some form of sensible compromise where the UK could work alongside the EU and sort out the problems instead of just turning our backs on them and running then maybe.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 1:00pmYeah, I knew Corbyn was a deep skeptic of the EU, and for sensible reasons, but the disruptions and pain it'll have on the weakest in society would, I hope, give pause. It's two ugly choices either way.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:47pmNo, the EU's position has consistently been that we can drop thia whole silly idea at any point before the final papers are signed. Corbyn is a Bennite, a disciple of the Labour-left MP Tony Benn who was famously sceptical of the neoliberal EU due to socialism being illegal under its the rules and may see Brexit for the best in the long-term. For now, its a major electoral risk to come out heavily as anti-Brexit. The Lib Dems were wiped out on that platform in this year's election and it'll take a major paradigm shift for that to change, i think.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:35pmGiven the clusterfuck of Brexit and national politics in its wake, is there any plausible scenario where Labour, upon forming govt, can call for a new referendum? Or are things so far gone in the negotiations with the EU that it'd be an empty exercise even if a vote could be held?Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 11:00amCould this bring down the government? Maybe. But Brexit is now part of Labour's future too, so it'll happen in some form.
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Yep that's exactly the way it is mate. British politics has always hurt those that needed it most. It's at that point where the people don't really know who to turn to thus creating fractious situations. Who is listening to the man on the street anymore?Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 1:48pmOf course the pro-Brexit side would feel their success the first time was being shivved. But it seems a bit perverse, when people's influence on public policy has been steadily eroded for decades, that a referendum with likely horrendous consequences for the most marginalized must now be respected in the name of the people. The autocrats are cackling away.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 1:31pmThe bigger problem as I see it is if Labour were to hold another referendum (I'm all for that) is that it's democracy out of the window if the majority voted out. It was a narrow margin yes but it was a margin that should be respected however bloody stupid it seems. If there was some form of sensible compromise where the UK could work alongside the EU and sort out the problems instead of just turning our backs on them and running then maybe.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 1:00pmYeah, I knew Corbyn was a deep skeptic of the EU, and for sensible reasons, but the disruptions and pain it'll have on the weakest in society would, I hope, give pause. It's two ugly choices either way.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:47pmNo, the EU's position has consistently been that we can drop thia whole silly idea at any point before the final papers are signed. Corbyn is a Bennite, a disciple of the Labour-left MP Tony Benn who was famously sceptical of the neoliberal EU due to socialism being illegal under its the rules and may see Brexit for the best in the long-term. For now, its a major electoral risk to come out heavily as anti-Brexit. The Lib Dems were wiped out on that platform in this year's election and it'll take a major paradigm shift for that to change, i think.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 12:35pm
Given the clusterfuck of Brexit and national politics in its wake, is there any plausible scenario where Labour, upon forming govt, can call for a new referendum? Or are things so far gone in the negotiations with the EU that it'd be an empty exercise even if a vote could be held?
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What's bizarre is how the persistent voices of capital and big business are also being ignored in favour of racism. Unexpected.
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The evil side of british politics rearing it's very ugly head over the parapet once again. Unexpected maybe unwanted definitely.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 2:29pmWhat's bizarre is how the persistent voices of capital and big business are also being ignored in favour of racism. Unexpected.
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I’ve said it before but I will repeat. The mother of all scandals is yet to break and there is a reason for it. It was shut down in the 1980’s and is still being shut down. Forget about the politicians in both houses most are dead anyway but this is suppressed because it will bring down the Judicial system which is whole different ball game and can’t afford to happen until all parties are dead.
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This is about you and a Big Country album isn't it?101Walterton wrote: ↑03 Nov 2017, 4:23pmI’ve said it before but I will repeat. The mother of all scandals is yet to break and there is a reason for it. It was shut down in the 1980’s and is still being shut down. Forget about the politicians in both houses most are dead anyway but this is suppressed because it will bring down the Judicial system which is whole different ball game and can’t afford to happen until all parties are dead.
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