No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by Wolter » 17 Nov 2009, 12:33pm

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Flex wrote:Jeffrey Toobin has an excellent piece on the Stupak Amendment:
The President is pro-choice, and he has signalled some misgivings about the Stupak amendment. But, like many modern pro-choice Democrats, he has worked so hard to be respectful of his opponents on this issue that he sometimes seems to cede them the moral high ground. In his book “The Audacity of Hope,” he describes the “undeniably difficult issue of abortion” and ponders “the middle-aged feminist who still mourns her abortion.” Elsewhere, he announces, “Abortion vexes.” The opponents of abortion aren’t vexed—they are mobilized, focussed, and driven to succeed.
None of this middling language re: abortion matters to the dedicated anti-abortion political movement. Anything but 100% commitment to their cause is 100% commitment against their cause. No compromise or conflict exhibited in action or speech will change that in the eyes of the true anti-abortion believers. How many self-identifying pro-lifers did Obama win over by writing things like "Abortion vexes" in his book? Zero. Yeah. Is this really that difficult for politicians to figure out?
I think George Carlin summed the debate up best when he said, "did you ever notice that the people who are against legalized abortion are the people you'd least likely wanna fuck?"
Another Carlinism re. abortion: "Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."
I can't remember how he put it, but I remember Jello Biafra making the point that the moment the kids are actually born, Right-To-Lifers stop giving a shit about them.
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by Flex » 02 Dec 2009, 3:54pm

Gen Y Over-Cautiousness Might Explain Abortion Attitudes. Thought this might be of some interest, particularly for the Doc, given past discussions on generational theory. It's just a short piece, but touches on a few issues that have been brought up on these boards over time, regarding the character of Gen Y and rights in general.
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by Wolter » 02 Dec 2009, 4:21pm

Flex wrote:Gen Y Over-Cautiousness Might Explain Abortion Attitudes. Thought this might be of some interest, particularly for the Doc, given past discussions on generational theory. It's just a short piece, but touches on a few issues that have been brought up on these boards over time, regarding the character of Gen Y and rights in general.
Evil little conformists. :shifty:
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Post by Dr. Medulla » 02 Dec 2009, 4:24pm

Flex wrote:Gen Y Over-Cautiousness Might Explain Abortion Attitudes. Thought this might be of some interest, particularly for the Doc, given past discussions on generational theory. It's just a short piece, but touches on a few issues that have been brought up on these boards over time, regarding the character of Gen Y and rights in general.
Two things immediately struck me from a S & H perspective. Gen Y's last appearance—the type, that is—was the WWII "greatest generation," who initiated the Baby Boom. Is there a connection in attitudes? (My inclination is to say no—the circumstances of now and then are extremely dissimilar.) However, Millennials are said to be more group-oriented, less individualist, and an anti-abortion stance does shift abortion as an individual choice to one of the group removing that choice. So, some tentative support there.
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by eumaas » 02 Dec 2009, 4:26pm

Fucking bastards.
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Post by Flex » 21 Jan 2010, 1:19pm

Speaking of The Feminisms, if I haven't shilled this blog out before, I think it's a must read: http://tigerbeatdown.com/
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Post by Flex » 02 Feb 2010, 2:40pm

Jill's take on the anti-choice Super Bowl ad controversy: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2 ... erbowl-ad/
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by Wolter » 02 Feb 2010, 2:47pm

Flex wrote:Jill's take on the anti-choice Super Bowl ad controversy: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2 ... erbowl-ad/
Good article.
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by rcs » 02 Feb 2010, 2:59pm

Wolter wrote:
Flex wrote:Jill's take on the anti-choice Super Bowl ad controversy: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2 ... erbowl-ad/
Good article.
good read... thanks
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by JennyB » 02 Feb 2010, 3:38pm

rcs wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Flex wrote:Jill's take on the anti-choice Super Bowl ad controversy: http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2 ... erbowl-ad/
Good article.
good read... thanks
Indeed. Plus, that Tebow guy can't read a defense to save his life.
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by eumaas » 23 Mar 2010, 2:20pm

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"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by eumaas » 23 Mar 2010, 2:21pm

No idea if that's real, incidentally.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by tepista » 23 Mar 2010, 2:32pm

We need more chick-lawyers like her :rolleyes:
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by JennyB » 23 Mar 2010, 3:33pm

Um, wow.
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Re: No, No, Don't Worry. Sexism is Pretty Much Over.

Post by eumaas » 23 Mar 2010, 3:35pm

JennyB wrote:Um, wow.
Beaneater is going to use this as an excuse to smack Jewish asses.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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