It's your type who are killing this country.Wolter wrote:But I'm more of a Kodos man, myself.
Why do you hate America?
It's your type who are killing this country.Wolter wrote:But I'm more of a Kodos man, myself.
So many reasons.Spiff wrote:It's your type who are killing this country.Wolter wrote:But I'm more of a Kodos man, myself.
Why do you hate America?
Given a period of colonization, savage England could be civilized.Wolter wrote:So many reasons.Spiff wrote:It's your type who are killing this country.Wolter wrote:But I'm more of a Kodos man, myself.
Why do you hate America?
Hell, I was an anglophile before I posted here.
That's pretty much my take. He was a competent liberal Republican (Eisenhowerish) president during a rising tide of the crazy right. Had he been president during a moderate or more leftish times he may have been great—or maybe the complete absence of checks on his personal vices would have made him a total nightmare. Given what's happening to the Republicans right now, Clinton should serve as a role model for making the party relevant again. He embraced what was tolerable of Reaganism and applied it to basic Democrat positions. In doing so, he restored his party as a viable alternative.Wolter wrote:I never really cared for Bill, but he was at least competent. I mean, a lot of his goals and methods were not what I would support, but in the grand balance, he was a decent president qua president.
I don't think it's worth it. Your Englishman is a stubborn sort, and resistant to attempts to convince him that there are better ways. And even IF I could morally condone the enslavement of an aboriginal population, he is far to shiftless and cunning for any productive labor to be gleaned from him. And before you say the overseer just isn't being firm enough, remember: it's almost impossible to make living conditions WORSE than wherever the limey actually grew up.eumaas wrote:Given a period of colonization, savage England could be civilized.Wolter wrote:So many reasons.Spiff wrote:It's your type who are killing this country.Wolter wrote:But I'm more of a Kodos man, myself.
Why do you hate America?
Hell, I was an anglophile before I posted here.
But sir, do we not have an obligation to share the civilization and its fruits with the world? I ask you: is it not our duty to civilize the Englishman?Wolter wrote:I don't think it's worth it. Your Englishman is a stubborn sort, and resistant to attempts to convince him that there are better ways. And even IF I could morally condone the enslavement of an aboriginal population, he is far to shiftless and cunning for any productive labor to be gleaned from him. And before you say the overseer just isn't being firm enough, remember: it's almost impossible to make living conditions WORSE than wherever the limey actually grew up.eumaas wrote:Given a period of colonization, savage England could be civilized.Wolter wrote:So many reasons.Spiff wrote:It's your type who are killing this country.Wolter wrote:But I'm more of a Kodos man, myself.
Why do you hate America?
Hell, I was an anglophile before I posted here.
The Englishman is happy with his puddings and meat pies and beans. He cavorts in the village green wearing little more than his trousers, a jumper, and maybe a mac and some wellies when his inhospitable clime requires it. Who are we to interfere with his blessed ignorance? This is an Edenic culture of noble savages. It is meet for us to observe them, to study how we were before The Fall.eumaas wrote:But sir, do we not have an obligation to share the civilization and its fruits with the world? I ask you: is it not our duty to civilize the Englishman?Wolter wrote:I don't think it's worth it. Your Englishman is a stubborn sort, and resistant to attempts to convince him that there are better ways. And even IF I could morally condone the enslavement of an aboriginal population, he is far to shiftless and cunning for any productive labor to be gleaned from him. And before you say the overseer just isn't being firm enough, remember: it's almost impossible to make living conditions WORSE than wherever the limey actually grew up.eumaas wrote:Given a period of colonization, savage England could be civilized.Wolter wrote:So many reasons.Spiff wrote: It's your type who are killing this country.
Why do you hate America?
Hell, I was an anglophile before I posted here.
Translation: The English countryside has no natural resources we find useful.Wolter wrote:The Englishman is happy with his puddings and meat pies and beans. He cavorts in the village green wearing little more than his trousers, a jumper, and maybe a mac and some wellies when his inhospitable clime requires it. Who are we to interfere with his blessed ignorance? This is an Edenic culture of noble savages. It is meet for us to observe them, to study how we were before The Fall.
Which were the tolerable parts?Dr. Medulla wrote:That's pretty much my take. He was a competent liberal Republican (Eisenhowerish) president during a rising tide of the crazy right. Had he been president during a moderate or more leftish times he may have been great—or maybe the complete absence of checks on his personal vices would have made him a total nightmare. Given what's happening to the Republicans right now, Clinton should serve as a role model for making the party relevant again. He embraced what was tolerable of Reaganism and applied it to basic Democrat positions. In doing so, he restored his party as a viable alternative.
Nancy's awesome appearance on Different Strokes.Flex wrote:Which were the tolerable parts?Dr. Medulla wrote:That's pretty much my take. He was a competent liberal Republican (Eisenhowerish) president during a rising tide of the crazy right. Had he been president during a moderate or more leftish times he may have been great—or maybe the complete absence of checks on his personal vices would have made him a total nightmare. Given what's happening to the Republicans right now, Clinton should serve as a role model for making the party relevant again. He embraced what was tolerable of Reaganism and applied it to basic Democrat positions. In doing so, he restored his party as a viable alternative.
Aww snap. I'd build a foreign policy around that.JennyB wrote:Nancy's awesome appearance on Different Strokes.
They unfortunately built a drug policy around that.Flex wrote:Aww snap. I'd build a foreign policy around that.JennyB wrote:Nancy's awesome appearance on Different Strokes.
The control of the administration by astrologers and the wizard Mondain?Flex wrote:Which were the tolerable parts?Dr. Medulla wrote:That's pretty much my take. He was a competent liberal Republican (Eisenhowerish) president during a rising tide of the crazy right. Had he been president during a moderate or more leftish times he may have been great—or maybe the complete absence of checks on his personal vices would have made him a total nightmare. Given what's happening to the Republicans right now, Clinton should serve as a role model for making the party relevant again. He embraced what was tolerable of Reaganism and applied it to basic Democrat positions. In doing so, he restored his party as a viable alternative.
I meant what had become seen as desirable in the culture of the time—e.g., conspicuous wealth and consumption, govt getting out of the way of the marketplace, free trade.Flex wrote:Which were the tolerable parts?Dr. Medulla wrote:That's pretty much my take. He was a competent liberal Republican (Eisenhowerish) president during a rising tide of the crazy right. Had he been president during a moderate or more leftish times he may have been great—or maybe the complete absence of checks on his personal vices would have made him a total nightmare. Given what's happening to the Republicans right now, Clinton should serve as a role model for making the party relevant again. He embraced what was tolerable of Reaganism and applied it to basic Democrat positions. In doing so, he restored his party as a viable alternative.
Oh, you mean the worst parts.Dr. Medulla wrote:I meant what had become seen as desirable in the culture of the time—e.g., conspicuous wealth and consumption, govt getting out of the way of the marketplace, free trade.