I don't, but that's because I foolishly installed a literal dangerous penis extension in 1999. Now I can't be around microwave ovens or my groin heats up to over 600 degrees celsius.Heston wrote:I've never held a gun or seen anyone use a gun and I want to keep it that way. I see them as dangerous penis extensions.
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Whereas I don't see fucking as being at all related to killing.Heston wrote:I see them as dangerous penis extensions.
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You didn't really answer my question. If the attacker had a gun, would you prefer to have an less effective weapon?Silent Majority wrote:The human hands are not a Instrument of Death (or any other Harvey Keitel film); there's countless fun things you can do with them . I suppose this is a case of Idealism versus Reality. I would hope that if someone broke into a Stranger's house, then the stranger would handle the situation in a way that minimalizes the human damage. Whereas if I found someone in my house, I'd decapitate them and live with the consequences. Joking aside, if I were forced to take a human life it would haunt me forever, but that wouldn't stop me from protecting myself. I don't think this is hypocrisy, but it might smell like that.
I wouldn't put the blame for that on the weapons themselves. Actually, if we pursued militia style defense over a militarized police force I'd say we'd fare a bit better. Centralization and authoritarianism is hardly ever the solution. I realize I'm in the minority with this opinion.Not the norm, but in certain extreme examples of urban centers in an armed society, like East LA or parts of Detroit the arms race continues. And that way M.A.D.ness lies.
There's a lot I've inherited from history that I don't like: the state, violence, exploitation, Jane Austen. The whole human condition is tragicomic. Best to find enjoyment where you can before your light is snuffed out."If we outlaw guns, only outlaws have guns." You have to admit that it's not much of an inheritance, a flawed system that you've found yourself in.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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Talk about a Hot Pocket.Wolter wrote:I don't, but that's because I foolishly installed a literal dangerous penis extension in 1999. Now I can't be around microwave ovens or my groin heats up to over 600 degrees celsius.Heston wrote:I've never held a gun or seen anyone use a gun and I want to keep it that way. I see them as dangerous penis extensions.
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The short answer's no, but that doesn't make any killing, or any device that can only be used for killing, righteous. I'd murder, but I'm a bit of a bastard like that. I piss on the toilet seat too.eumaas wrote:You didn't really answer my question. If the attacker had a gun, would you prefer to have an less effective weapon?Silent Majority wrote:The human hands are not a Instrument of Death (or any other Harvey Keitel film); there's countless fun things you can do with them . I suppose this is a case of Idealism versus Reality. I would hope that if someone broke into a Stranger's house, then the stranger would handle the situation in a way that minimalizes the human damage. Whereas if I found someone in my house, I'd decapitate them and live with the consequences. Joking aside, if I were forced to take a human life it would haunt me forever, but that wouldn't stop me from protecting myself. I don't think this is hypocrisy, but it might smell like that.
I think due to human nature, a lack of people to answer to leads to misdeeds. If a person can get away with something, they will. A militia would become drunk on it's power a la Homer Simpson when he was chasing the cat burglar.eumaas wrote: I wouldn't put the blame for that on the weapons themselves. Actually, if we pursued militia style defense over a militarized police force I'd say we'd fare a bit better. Centralization and authoritarianism is hardly ever the solution. I realize I'm in the minority with this opinion.
The Brontes, though. They were kick arse.eumaas wrote: There's a lot I've inherited from history that I don't like: the state, violence, exploitation, Jane Austen.
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Well, I'd say you're a hypocrite if you'd like to deprive another.Silent Majority wrote:The short answer's no, but that doesn't make any killing, or any device that can only be used for killing, righteous. I'd murder, but I'm a bit of a bastard like that. I piss on the toilet seat too.
Eh, I really don't want to get into another discussion of anarchism. I've gone over this stuff before and suffice it to say 1. it's not as simple as all that, and 2. if you're against people having that sort of power, why would you restrict it to fewer people? after all, power corrupts, and the more concentrated the power, the more awful the corruption--absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'd rather "decentralize the badness" as P. J. O'Rourke put it.I think due to human nature, a lack of people to answer to leads to misdeeds. If a person can get away with something, they will. A militia would become drunk on it's power a la Homer Simpson when he was chasing the cat burglar.
Also terrible. Much of English literature from that period is simply awful.The Brontes, though. They were kick arse.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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Deprive another of the joy of killing? It's only in these extreme, unlikely, horror-story scenarios that I'd ever consider murder being partway acceptable.eumaas wrote:Well, I'd say you're a hypocrite if you'd like to deprive another.
Fair enough. You've done the reading and all I've got is a series of unsupported gut reactions. I'd rather not get into a debate where the balance of knowledge is stacked against me.Eh, I really don't want to get into another discussion of anarchism. I've gone over this stuff before and suffice it to say 1. it's not as simple as all that, and 2. if you're against people having that sort of power, why would you restrict it to fewer people? after all, power corrupts, and the more concentrated the power, the more awful the corruption--absolute power corrupts absolutely. I'd rather "decentralize the badness" as P. J. O'Rourke put it.
Says Heathcliff.Also terrible. Much of English literature from that period is simply awful.The Brontes, though. They were kick arse.
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Nothing to do with joy. Just because hurting people might get your rocks off doesn't make it true for all gun owners.Silent Majority wrote:Deprive another of the joy of killing? It's only in these extreme, unlikely, horror-story scenarios that I'd ever consider murder being partway acceptable.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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Whatever works for me.eumaas wrote:Nothing to do with joy. Just because hurting people might get your rocks off doesn't make it true for all gun owners.Silent Majority wrote:Deprive another of the joy of killing? It's only in these extreme, unlikely, horror-story scenarios that I'd ever consider murder being partway acceptable.
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That's not the way to post a YouTube video of your gun collection, m'am.
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I like animals now. Guns, I'm essentially in the same place as I was nine years ago, but with more ambivalence around violent revolution than I once had.
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I don't really have much use for guns as the likelihood of more mass shootings seems to outweigh the likelihood of anything Pantheresque going on or even an armed revolution at the moment.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 6:18pmI like animals now. Guns, I'm essentially in the same place as I was nine years ago, but with more ambivalence around violent revolution than I once had.
I still don't really like Austen, but the Brontes I am a little warmer on. I tend to prefer 18th to 19th century literature.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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No, in America guns are a mass psychosis. I'm thinking more in the global south.eumaas wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 6:24pmI don't really have much use for guns as the likelihood of more mass shootings seems to outweigh the likelihood of anything Pantheresque going on or even an armed revolution at the moment.Silent Majority wrote: ↑03 Apr 2018, 6:18pmI like animals now. Guns, I'm essentially in the same place as I was nine years ago, but with more ambivalence around violent revolution than I once had.
Jane Eyre - the character - is cool as hell.I still don't really like Austen, but the Brontes I am a little warmer on. I tend to prefer 18th to 19th century literature.