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Post by Dr. Medulla » 09 Sep 2018, 7:49am

revbob wrote:
08 Sep 2018, 5:02pm
This has been a big story around here, not sure how much press it is getting elsewhere
We Saw Nuns Kill Children: The Ghosts of St. Joseph’s Catholic Orphanage
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ch ... st-josephs
It really is remarkable that a profession—a higher calling, they claim—described as aiding the destitute and suffering ends up attracting and protecting such monsters. It's easy to be coldly cynical towards it all—to just condemn religion and/or institutions—but the disconnect between purported ideals and actions is hard to understand (for me, at any rate). How did/do these people rationalize their lives and block out their consciences?
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Re: This Week in Religion

Post by revbob » 09 Sep 2018, 10:25am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Sep 2018, 7:49am
revbob wrote:
08 Sep 2018, 5:02pm
This has been a big story around here, not sure how much press it is getting elsewhere
We Saw Nuns Kill Children: The Ghosts of St. Joseph’s Catholic Orphanage
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ch ... st-josephs
It really is remarkable that a profession—a higher calling, they claim—described as aiding the destitute and suffering ends up attracting and protecting such monsters. It's easy to be coldly cynical towards it all—to just condemn religion and/or institutions—but the disconnect between purported ideals and actions is hard to understand (for me, at any rate). How did/do these people rationalize their lives and block out their consciences?
I can't read that without being overcome with an intensely profound sadness.

I wonder if there is something about this sort of profession, calling, situation whatever you want to call it that draws the worst people possible to it. Maybe not in a conscious way but something inside them that sees the opportunities to act out their worst impulses.

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Re: This Week in Religion

Post by Dr. Medulla » 09 Sep 2018, 11:19am

revbob wrote:
09 Sep 2018, 10:25am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Sep 2018, 7:49am
revbob wrote:
08 Sep 2018, 5:02pm
This has been a big story around here, not sure how much press it is getting elsewhere
We Saw Nuns Kill Children: The Ghosts of St. Joseph’s Catholic Orphanage
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ch ... st-josephs
It really is remarkable that a profession—a higher calling, they claim—described as aiding the destitute and suffering ends up attracting and protecting such monsters. It's easy to be coldly cynical towards it all—to just condemn religion and/or institutions—but the disconnect between purported ideals and actions is hard to understand (for me, at any rate). How did/do these people rationalize their lives and block out their consciences?
I can't read that without being overcome with an intensely profound sadness.

I wonder if there is something about this sort of profession, calling, situation whatever you want to call it that draws the worst people possible to it. Maybe not in a conscious way but something inside them that sees the opportunities to act out their worst impulses.
Perhaps, but that heightens the perversity of the job description attracting and endorsing the complete opposite kind of individual. I lean more to the idea that institutions do that to people, with the more rigid the institution the more corrupting it does to an individual's sense of shared humanity. That is, when a person identifies with the abstractness of an institution more than actual living creatures, it's easier, perhaps even mandatory, to deny them any respect or kindness. But the idea that so many people can have their humanity so cancered away, and in a duty that calls for compassion, that's stuff that I have a hard time processing on a gut level. I have that problem with understanding the Holocaust. I've read more than a few books along the years and I really don't think I've understood in a meaningful sense how people get to that point of rationalizing and validating abuse and murder. I can intellectualize it, but I don't understand it.
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Post by eumaas » 09 Sep 2018, 1:12pm

Not sure how one can go from reading the Sermon on the Mount to abusing children.
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eumaas wrote:
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Not sure how one can go from reading the Sermon on the Mount to abusing children.
It's surprisingly easy, apparently
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Post by Wolter » 09 Sep 2018, 2:52pm

eumaas wrote:
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Not sure how one can go from reading the Sermon on the Mount to abusing children.
Not sure how large chunks of organized Christianity are extrapolated from the foundational texts. I understand how some things got in (the antisemitism was cooked in early, though ironically mostly by Jewish Christians angry at the sense that their community was turning a deaf ear to their conversion attempts), but there are so many facets of modern Christianity completely at odds with anything written in the first few centuries.
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Post by BostonBeaneater » 18 Sep 2018, 3:01pm

Former Republican state senator, 36, is given 15 years in federal prison for paying a boy, 17, to have sex in a motel room and apologizes for living a 'double life of sin'

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Post by Dr. Medulla » 27 Sep 2018, 6:45pm

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Confirmed: Half of American evangelicals deserve the hell they assert everyone else is headed for.
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Post by JennyB » 28 Sep 2018, 10:16am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 6:45pm
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ll-support

Confirmed: Half of American evangelicals deserve the hell they assert everyone else is headed for.
Only half?
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Post by Dr. Medulla » 28 Sep 2018, 10:31am

JennyB wrote:
28 Sep 2018, 10:16am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 6:45pm
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ll-support

Confirmed: Half of American evangelicals deserve the hell they assert everyone else is headed for.
Only half?
The other half are dishonest.
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Post by revbob » 28 Sep 2018, 1:40pm

NJ o real surprise most were willing to support Roy Moore and continue to support Trump. Women are still property to these people. Can the rapture come already and take these people away.

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Re: This Week in Religion

Post by eumaas » 18 Oct 2018, 8:55pm

from a Catholic trinkets catalogue. the wise man is uhh
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I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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Re: This Week in Religion

Post by Dr. Medulla » 18 Oct 2018, 9:11pm

eumaas wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 8:55pm
from a Catholic trinkets catalogue. the wise man is uhh
270E0BDD-3FF1-401B-A99E-7E70AA513421.jpeg
Holy crap. Being charitable, I suppose, you congratulate them for not making everyone look northern European, but …
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Re: This Week in Religion

Post by Wolter » 18 Oct 2018, 11:35pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 9:11pm
eumaas wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 8:55pm
from a Catholic trinkets catalogue. the wise man is uhh
270E0BDD-3FF1-401B-A99E-7E70AA513421.jpeg
Holy crap. Being charitable, I suppose, you congratulate them for not making everyone look northern European, but …
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Re: This Week in Religion

Post by BostonBeaneater » 19 Oct 2018, 1:16am

eumaas wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 8:55pm
from a Catholic trinkets catalogue. the wise man is uhh
270E0BDD-3FF1-401B-A99E-7E70AA513421.jpeg
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