This is fantastic

[eumaas]

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/t ... ma-fo.html

From a couple days ago. Another one of the good conservatives alienated by the Republican Party.

[Dr. Medulla]

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/t ... ma-fo.html

From a couple days ago. Another one of the good conservatives alienated by the Republican Party.

Sullivan's another guy who has been demonized for months by a lot of the hardcore conservatives and "libertarians." He's been pretty much labeled a DailyKOS plant because he was at the fore of the anti-Palin criticism. There was a piece in the Guardian online a couple weeks ago that suggested that Palin will be the line in the sand in the election post-mortem. A bit crude, I'd say, but probably a good description about how it initially shakes out.

[Wolter]

But the crudeness with which military force has been deployed, the absence of strategy or even due diligence in the execution of the long war, and the massive public relations blunders which have led the United States to lose a propaganda war against a bunch of murderous, medieval loons are unforgivable.

All of this.

But ESPECIALLY the bold.

[IkarisOne]

Andrew Sullivan is one of my must-read pundits. Two of the others are Glenn Greenwald at Salon and Justin Raimondo at anitwar.com.

Hmmm, all three are gay libertarians...

[eumaas]

A couple pieces with bearing on this collapse:
http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.com/a ... &type=cttf
http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.com/a ... home&loc=b

[BostonBeaneater]

I like to read Sullivan a lot but he is one sanctimonious son of a bitch when he's on television.

He also likes it bareback.

[eumaas]

I like to read Sullivan a lot but he is one sanctimonious son of a bitch when he's on television.

He also likes it bareback.

I'm not a huge Sullivan fan, I just thought the one piece was a fair indictment.

[Wolter]

I like to read Sullivan a lot but he is one sanctimonious son of a bitch when he's on television.

He also likes it bareback.

I'm not a huge Sullivan fan, I just thought the one piece was a fair indictment.

Well a stopped Hoy finds a nut every now and then. Heck, I'm even able to read some Hitchens lately.

[eumaas]

I like to read Sullivan a lot but he is one sanctimonious son of a bitch when he's on television.

He also likes it bareback.

I'm not a huge Sullivan fan, I just thought the one piece was a fair indictment.

Well a stopped Hoy finds a nut every now and then. Heck, I'm even able to read some Hitchens lately.

I'd like to challenge him to a duel.

[Wolter]

I like to read Sullivan a lot but he is one sanctimonious son of a bitch when he's on television.

He also likes it bareback.

I'm not a huge Sullivan fan, I just thought the one piece was a fair indictment.

Well a stopped Hoy finds a nut every now and then. Heck, I'm even able to read some Hitchens lately.

I'd like to challenge him to a duel.

And I would gladly watch you slay that pompous asshead. But that doesn't mean he hasn't been more tolerable lately.

[eumaas]

I like to read Sullivan a lot but he is one sanctimonious son of a bitch when he's on television.

He also likes it bareback.

I'm not a huge Sullivan fan, I just thought the one piece was a fair indictment.

Well a stopped Hoy finds a nut every now and then. Heck, I'm even able to read some Hitchens lately.

I'd like to challenge him to a duel.

And I would gladly watch you slay that pompous asshead. But that doesn't mean he hasn't been more tolerable lately.

He'd be most tolerable if I stood triumphantly above his prone corpse.

[Purple Hayes]

Which Hitchens?

If you mean Peter can I piss on his prone corpse? I've wanted to give him a serious shoeing for years, nasty bastard..

[eumaas]

Which Hitchens?

If you mean Peter can I piss on his prone corpse? I've wanted to give him a serious shoeing for years, nasty bastard..

Christopher, but Peter is worthy too.

[Wolter]

I'm not a huge Sullivan fan, I just thought the one piece was a fair indictment.

Well a stopped Hoy finds a nut every now and then. Heck, I'm even able to read some Hitchens lately.

I'd like to challenge him to a duel.

And I would gladly watch you slay that pompous asshead. But that doesn't mean he hasn't been more tolerable lately.

He'd be most tolerable if I stood triumphantly above his prone corpse.

Careful, though. All the toxins in his body might leach out and damage your boots.

[Dr. Medulla]

What I find kind of ironic about eumaas' hostility to Hitchens is that the main thing I like about Hitch is what I like in eumaas: he doesn't pussyfoot around with his opinions and has use of language can be devastatingly effective. Just one example: It was either in an article or an interview where he spoke of Jerry Falwell's death, describing his secretary as finding his "carcass." What an absolutely perfect word to capture Hitchens' contempt for Falwell. Just perfect. No feigning pleasantries for the dearly departed. This by no means indicates that I agree with all or even most of Hitchens' positions, especially regarding foreign policy. But, Christ, he's a fine writer, makes his points clearly, and does it in an entertaining manner. Compare him to a semi-literate thug like Hannity or a faux intellectual like William Kristol. They are boring and they are stupid. That I disagree with them on pretty much everything is pretty low on my list of why I rarely read or watch them.