Calling All Americans

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eumaas wrote:
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101Walterton wrote:and the world a better place to be
I don't think that's a necessary result at all.
Yes it wil believe me. The majority of the worlds population (which is not white) will see the US in a different light.
Perceptions do not always create realities.
Look at the opposite scenario....scary thought.

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The hype surrounding this man has gotten ridiculous. It's like people have surrendered their reason at the door.
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Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
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tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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eumaas wrote:
tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
I bet he can't even play pinball.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:I'll call it now. Either the black chap sits in the big seat or the cities will burn and riot.
I predicted that weeks, if not months ago, on this very board. (Probably in this thread even ... I think I'll go back and check.)

I did qualify it, however, by saying that the rioting will only commence if it's clear that GOP vote suppression stole the election. But since that's the only way McCain will win, that's hardly a qualification... :mrgreen:
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eumaas wrote:
tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
That's the one thing (well, main thing) about Obama that I'm uncomfortable with—the whole cult of personality that is mainly younger supporters have thrust upon him (or maybe I'm naive and he's actually orchestrated it all). A quick skimming of history shows that a time of crisis and a charismatic leader doesn't necessarily end well.
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101Walterton wrote:Just bumped this to say "go make history" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the world a better place to be :mrgreen:
Just got back from doing so! :kiss:

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
That's the one thing (well, main thing) about Obama that I'm uncomfortable with—the whole cult of personality that is mainly younger supporters have thrust upon him (or maybe I'm naive and he's actually orchestrated it all). A quick skimming of history shows that a time of crisis and a charismatic leader doesn't necessarily end well.
I started off with amazement at seeing all these voters everywhere, but it's settled into a deep unease.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
That's the one thing (well, main thing) about Obama that I'm uncomfortable with—the whole cult of personality that is mainly younger supporters have thrust upon him (or maybe I'm naive and he's actually orchestrated it all). A quick skimming of history shows that a time of crisis and a charismatic leader doesn't necessarily end well.
I started off with amazement at seeing all these voters everywhere, but it's settled into a deep unease.
I'm OK with it. The other side got there by making Bush into a demigod of sorts. You need to do what you need to do to win.
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eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
That's the one thing (well, main thing) about Obama that I'm uncomfortable with—the whole cult of personality that is mainly younger supporters have thrust upon him (or maybe I'm naive and he's actually orchestrated it all). A quick skimming of history shows that a time of crisis and a charismatic leader doesn't necessarily end well.
I started off with amazement at seeing all these voters everywhere, but it's settled into a deep unease.
Heh—you're one of the few non-Republicans bothered by the (relatively) high turnout. But, yeah, I'd feel better if high turnout in Canada and the U.S. was connected to civic principle as opposed to (seemingly) faith in a single man. Hopefully you guys get FDR and not Hitler (you know what I mean).
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
That's the one thing (well, main thing) about Obama that I'm uncomfortable with—the whole cult of personality that is mainly younger supporters have thrust upon him (or maybe I'm naive and he's actually orchestrated it all). A quick skimming of history shows that a time of crisis and a charismatic leader doesn't necessarily end well.
I started off with amazement at seeing all these voters everywhere, but it's settled into a deep unease.
Heh—you're one of the few non-Republicans bothered by the (relatively) high turnout. But, yeah, I'd feel better if high turnout in Canada and the U.S. was connected to civic principle as opposed to (seemingly) faith in a single man. Hopefully you guys get FDR and not Hitler (you know what I mean).
Wherever people drink deeply of the waters of Trust In Authority, I can't help but feel uneasy.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman

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eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote: That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
That's the one thing (well, main thing) about Obama that I'm uncomfortable with—the whole cult of personality that is mainly younger supporters have thrust upon him (or maybe I'm naive and he's actually orchestrated it all). A quick skimming of history shows that a time of crisis and a charismatic leader doesn't necessarily end well.
I started off with amazement at seeing all these voters everywhere, but it's settled into a deep unease.
Heh—you're one of the few non-Republicans bothered by the (relatively) high turnout. But, yeah, I'd feel better if high turnout in Canada and the U.S. was connected to civic principle as opposed to (seemingly) faith in a single man. Hopefully you guys get FDR and not Hitler (you know what I mean).
Wherever people drink deeply of the waters of Trust In Authority, I can't help but feel uneasy.
I agree. I'm not one given to faith, spiritual or secular, and the devotion Obama inspires fascinates me on a cerebral level as much as it bothers me on an instinctual one. Two of the possibilities—a happy surrendering of personal freedoms (absolute and otherwise, ho ho) or the angry backlash of the betrayed—don't seem worth the risk.
"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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I should also add—and I don't mean to piss on anyone's campfire here—that a lot of hardcore evangelicals thought that their moment had arrived in 2000 when their Christian warrior was elected. But it didn't happen. Obama's a competent and extremely smart guy, but expectations for what he can accomplish should be tempered.
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eumaas wrote:
tepista wrote:Some may see him as a savior, sure, they're overdoing it. But we need a change from the way it has been for the last 8.
That's true, but even if elected he's just a fucking president, not the goddamn messiah.
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