Calling All Americans

[101Walterton]

Word is people are saying one thing in public but when when in the privacy of the polling booth, will do another !!! You have the chance to make the world a slightly better place, make sure you do the right thing.

[Rat Patrol]

I'll remember that when the guy going before me in the voting booth says "I will not masturbate in the voting booth".

[BostonBeaneater]

Don't worry. If Obama is truly in places like North Carolina and Indiana then he ought to win. McCain has run a terrible campaign, Kerry-esque.

[eumaas]

I'm voting, and for Obama, and I don't even believe in the state as a legitimate entity.

[BostonBeaneater]

So a canvasser goes to a woman’s door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she’s planning to vote for. She isn’t sure, has to ask her husband who she’s voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, “We’re votin’ for the nigger!”

Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: “We’re voting for the nigger.

We've come a long way baby.

[Mimi]

So a canvasser goes to a woman’s door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she’s planning to vote for. She isn’t sure, has to ask her husband who she’s voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, “We’re votin’ for the nigger!”

Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: “We’re voting for the nigger.

We've come a long way baby.

I didn't live too far from Washington, PA. Wait, should I be admitting that publicly?

[Jimmy Jazz]

Don't worry. If Obama is truly in places like North Carolina and Indiana then he ought to win. McCain has run a terrible campaign, Kerry-esque.

Never underestimate the stupidity of America!

[Spiff]

Word is people are saying one thing in public but when when in the privacy of the polling booth, will do another!

Yes, I think this phenomenon will reduce Obama's actual votes by 2-5% from what the polls are predicting.

But the enormous jump in registration and pre-voting by traditionally less-than-reliable voting blocs (blacks, young voters, and to a lesser exent, Hispanics) is very encouraging, as these are groups that Obama has energized.

Who wins this election will hinge on whether these newly motivated voters for Obama will outnumber the votes that Obama will lose due to his race.

But I think that the average ignorant redneck (see the US 2008 Election thread for video examples) who won't vote for Obama because of Obama's skin color would also not vote for any Democrat anyway, cuz they're the people what wanna take muh guns away.

BTW, I predict violence if the voting is close and there are irregularities that swing vote totals to McCain. If the GOP tries to steal this election again, and it seems to be working, there will be riots in our major cities.

Bush in 2004 probably won Ohio due to some pretty shady voter manipulation in the state's large cities. Namely, the voting places were few and far between in urban areas, and those locations had the most inefficient voting machines and procedures, causing long lines and many people in these Democratic strongholds to just give up and go home (or back to their minumum-wage jobs where they tried to vote during their lunch hour).

But nobody felt like rioting for lame-ass Kerry over this. But for the vey motivated Obama voters, any kind of voting dirty tricks by the GOP will NOT sit well at all. Like I said, this country could implode over this, the passions (and the stakes) are so high.

P.S. If there are riots, you betcha I'm gonna be there throwing a brick or two into the GOP offices! (Hmm ... why am I suddenly reminded of the lyrics to "White Riot"?)

[Dr. Medulla]

Word is people are saying one thing in public but when when in the privacy of the polling booth, will do another!

Yes, I think this phenomenon will reduce Obama's actual votes by 2-5% from what the polls are predicting.

I'm doubtful of this for a number of reasons:
(1) Pollsters may have been undersampling younger and minority voters because they traditionally do not vote in as great a numbers as older white people. Under-30s also are more likely to be cellphone-only, meaning that pollsters don't call them. Advance voting suggests that younger and black voters are turning out at a greater rate than before.
(2) The original Bradley Effect election was 26 years ago, and the notion of black public officials isn't as radical as it once seemed, especially to those under the age of 40, who have never known anything else. It might be worthwhile remembering that Al Smith lost in '28 in part because he was Catholic. Thirty-two years later, fear of papists was largely gone from the electorate, especially when there was a charismatic young Catholic who didn't seem all that scary. I think Kennedy is the better reference point than Bradley.
(3) Ed Rollins, who was with George Deukmejian's campaign in '82, says that the reason Bradley lost was not racism. Indeed, Rollins claims that polls and election day results were pretty close, but that it was in the absentee ballots that Bradley lost.

BTW, I predict violence if the voting is close and there are irregularities that swing vote totals to McCain. If the GOP tries to steal this election again, and it seems to be working, there will be riots in our major cities.

Definitely, but I'm doubtful it'll happen. The GOP is so dispirited and everyone would know that the results were fraudulent that they'd find the country ungovernable. They've looted your country well for eight years. Time to take a breather and let the Democrat try to rebuild things.

Bush in 2004 probably won Ohio due to some pretty shady voter manipulation in the state's large cities. Namely, the voting places were few and far between in urban areas, and those locations had the most inefficient voting machines and procedures, causing long lines and many people in these Democratic strongholds to just give up and go home (or back to their minumum-wage jobs where they tried to vote during their lunch hour).

A number of math geeks have argued that for the exit polling to be that off in Ohio—and nowhere else—was statistically unlikely. Ohio's election was almost certainly fraudulent. That those Republicans have been voted out in Ohio and other battleground states lessens the likelihood (fingers crossed) of out-and-out fraud this time around.

[Spiff]

My hope is that you are right, my good doctor. But my gut, my very pessimistic gut, says that the Bradley Effect is not yet history.

We'll see which computer-chair pundit is right on November 5. (And I hope the winners are known by then... )

But McCain is using every scare tactic he can, and it will only get uglier in the next week and a half... :hmph:

[Wolter]

the Brady factor

?

[Dr. Medulla]

But McCain is using every scare tactic he can, and it will only get uglier in the next week and a half... :hmph:

My hunch is that its effect will be more long-term than just about this election. It's just plain bad politics for one thing. There are notably fewer people who identify themselves as Republicans or Democrats right now, so the GOP base is smaller. Yet his tactics this month have been to play to the base and no one else. So either he's incompetent—extremely possible—or this is setting the parameters for the Republican opposition to an Obama administration—he's a terrorist, he's a Muslim, he's a socialist, he's anti/un-American. Which means the next four years is going to make the Clinton years seem like an eight-year bi-partisan honeymoon.

[Dr. Medulla]

the Brady factor

?

Isn't "Alice" a massively crazy fundamentalist?

[Wolter]

the Brady factor

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Isn't "Alice" a massively crazy fundamentalist?

I have no idea, but I'm willing to spread the notion around.

[Dr. Medulla]

the Brady factor

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Isn't "Alice" a massively crazy fundamentalist?

I have no idea, but I'm willing to spread the notion around.

Davis, a born-again Christian, has spent much of the last two decades deeply involved in a tiny Christian community led by Bishop William Frey, serving the homeless. Davis also lectures and testifies before church groups around the country.

Born-again Christian suggests maybe, helping the homeless says maybe not.

I've heard the same rumours—fundamentalist whacko—about Erin Moran, so it might be one of those ongoing things that cites ex-actors as a reason why we no longer hear about them.