We all know what breasts look like—the location and features (i.e., a nipple), that is. But is the default a young pert breast? How big can it be? How small? How much jiggling? Is the default Marilyn Monroe's boob or an average eighteen year old girl's? There are a fuck of a lot more variations to a boob than there is to an eye, and what you default to in your brain might not be the same as mine. Beyond iris colour, what other distinctions are there to an eyeball? I find the eye analogy less than apt because there's less variety (to the non-specialist).eumaas wrote:The more restricted variations among eyes (to a layman) does not improve your argument. Are boobs so multifarious to the layman that there is no common prototype?Dr. Medulla wrote:No, I'm admitting that my own bias is towards a generic eye. It helps that eyes, other than to a specialist, don't come in as many shapes and sizes as boobs. I'm not a specialist, so there you go.
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Re: Free market?
Backpedaling. You originally included saggy old tits as part of the prototype. Now you're talking about a restricted range.Dr. Medulla wrote:We all know what breasts look like—the location and features (i.e., a nipple), that is. But is the default a young pert breast? How big can it be? How small? How much jiggling? Is the default Marilyn Monroe's boob or an average eighteen year old girl's? There are a fuck of a lot more variations to a boob than there is to an eye, and what you default to in your brain might not be the same as mine. Beyond iris colour, what other distinctions are there to an eyeball? I find the eye analogy less than apt because there's less variety (to the non-specialist).eumaas wrote:The more restricted variations among eyes (to a layman) does not improve your argument. Are boobs so multifarious to the layman that there is no common prototype?Dr. Medulla wrote:No, I'm admitting that my own bias is towards a generic eye. It helps that eyes, other than to a specialist, don't come in as many shapes and sizes as boobs. I'm not a specialist, so there you go.
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Huh? I said previously that saggy old tits are what some people might think of when you say "boob." I didn't mean for MM or the 18 year old to be the full range of possibilities, just a couple examples. I'd be typing forever if you wanted me to give you an extensive list.eumaas wrote:Backpedaling. You originally included saggy old tits as part of the prototype. Now you're talking about a restricted range.Dr. Medulla wrote:We all know what breasts look like—the location and features (i.e., a nipple), that is. But is the default a young pert breast? How big can it be? How small? How much jiggling? Is the default Marilyn Monroe's boob or an average eighteen year old girl's? There are a fuck of a lot more variations to a boob than there is to an eye, and what you default to in your brain might not be the same as mine. Beyond iris colour, what other distinctions are there to an eyeball? I find the eye analogy less than apt because there's less variety (to the non-specialist).eumaas wrote:The more restricted variations among eyes (to a layman) does not improve your argument. Are boobs so multifarious to the layman that there is no common prototype?Dr. Medulla wrote:No, I'm admitting that my own bias is towards a generic eye. It helps that eyes, other than to a specialist, don't come in as many shapes and sizes as boobs. I'm not a specialist, so there you go.
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That's the point. It's a restricted range for the common prototype. It's highly unlikely anyone would be thinking of tits outside of what is commonly attractive. It just doesn't happen. If I say "cute girl," it's more likely we'll think of something similar than dissimilar.Dr. Medulla wrote:Huh? I said previously that saggy old tits are what some people might think of when you say "boob." I didn't mean for MM or the 18 year old to be the full range of possibilities, just a couple examples. I'd be typing forever if you wanted me to give you an extensive list.eumaas wrote:Backpedaling. You originally included saggy old tits as part of the prototype. Now you're talking about a restricted range.Dr. Medulla wrote:We all know what breasts look like—the location and features (i.e., a nipple), that is. But is the default a young pert breast? How big can it be? How small? How much jiggling? Is the default Marilyn Monroe's boob or an average eighteen year old girl's? There are a fuck of a lot more variations to a boob than there is to an eye, and what you default to in your brain might not be the same as mine. Beyond iris colour, what other distinctions are there to an eyeball? I find the eye analogy less than apt because there's less variety (to the non-specialist).eumaas wrote:The more restricted variations among eyes (to a layman) does not improve your argument. Are boobs so multifarious to the layman that there is no common prototype?Dr. Medulla wrote:No, I'm admitting that my own bias is towards a generic eye. It helps that eyes, other than to a specialist, don't come in as many shapes and sizes as boobs. I'm not a specialist, so there you go.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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On a topic like sexuality, I disagree. You say cute girl to Hoy, for example, and there's no way a redhead will pop in his head. To a racist, it'll be restricted to someone of his own race. So that's a chunk cut out right away. Does a cute girl have modest breasts or large ones? Does cute preclude one or the other? Is she necessarily slim or can she have some belly fat? Is a cute girl necessarily tall or short? I really disagree that you can restrict the range so much. If the Internet has demonstrated anything, it's that wide variety in sexuality is the norm, not something more restrictive. Presuming that there is a narrow band for such qualities is erroneous.eumaas wrote:That's the point. It's a restricted range for the common prototype. It's highly unlikely anyone would be thinking of tits outside of what is commonly attractive. It just doesn't happen. If I say "cute girl," it's more likely we'll think of something similar than dissimilar.Dr. Medulla wrote:Huh? I said previously that saggy old tits are what some people might think of when you say "boob." I didn't mean for MM or the 18 year old to be the full range of possibilities, just a couple examples. I'd be typing forever if you wanted me to give you an extensive list.eumaas wrote:Backpedaling. You originally included saggy old tits as part of the prototype. Now you're talking about a restricted range.Dr. Medulla wrote:We all know what breasts look like—the location and features (i.e., a nipple), that is. But is the default a young pert breast? How big can it be? How small? How much jiggling? Is the default Marilyn Monroe's boob or an average eighteen year old girl's? There are a fuck of a lot more variations to a boob than there is to an eye, and what you default to in your brain might not be the same as mine. Beyond iris colour, what other distinctions are there to an eyeball? I find the eye analogy less than apt because there's less variety (to the non-specialist).eumaas wrote: The more restricted variations among eyes (to a layman) does not improve your argument. Are boobs so multifarious to the layman that there is no common prototype?
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Re: Free market?
Fine. Be Canadian. I'd rather hang with linguists anyways.
Also: get a job, faggot!
Also: get a job, faggot!
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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Curious what you regard as a Canadian prototype …eumaas wrote:Fine. Be Canadian. I'd rather hang with linguists anyways.
Also: get a job, faggot!
"Ain't no party like an S Club party!'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
Re: Free market?
Pedantic epileptics in Saskatchewan.Dr. Medulla wrote:Curious what you regard as a Canadian prototype …eumaas wrote:Fine. Be Canadian. I'd rather hang with linguists anyways.
Also: get a job, faggot!
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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Pedantic?! Says the guy who takes exception to lay definitions of corporatism …eumaas wrote:Pedantic epileptics in Saskatchewan.Dr. Medulla wrote:Curious what you regard as a Canadian prototype …eumaas wrote:Fine. Be Canadian. I'd rather hang with linguists anyways.
Also: get a job, faggot!
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Re: Free market?
Lakoff called. He's gonna kick you in the balls.Dr. Medulla wrote:Pedantic?! Says the guy who takes exception to lay definitions of corporatism …eumaas wrote:Pedantic epileptics in Saskatchewan.Dr. Medulla wrote:Curious what you regard as a Canadian prototype …eumaas wrote:Fine. Be Canadian. I'd rather hang with linguists anyways.
Also: get a job, faggot!
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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Just not in the boobs.eumaas wrote:Lakoff called. He's gonna kick you in the balls.Dr. Medulla wrote:Pedantic?! Says the guy who takes exception to lay definitions of corporatism …eumaas wrote:Pedantic epileptics in Saskatchewan.Dr. Medulla wrote:Curious what you regard as a Canadian prototype …eumaas wrote:Fine. Be Canadian. I'd rather hang with linguists anyways.
Also: get a job, faggot!
"Ain't no party like an S Club party!'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
Re: Free market?
Whatever you say, Mr. No Such Thing As Prototypes.Dr. Medulla wrote:Just not in the boobs.eumaas wrote:Lakoff called. He's gonna kick you in the balls.Dr. Medulla wrote:Pedantic?! Says the guy who takes exception to lay definitions of corporatism …eumaas wrote:Pedantic epileptics in Saskatchewan.Dr. Medulla wrote: Curious what you regard as a Canadian prototype …
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I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
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I'm not being an absolutist. I'm suggesting that on some topics—and in this case sexuality—I'm quite dubious. Take photos of, say, twenty sets of notably different breasts (or butts or cute) and tell a person, which looks most like boobs (butt/cute) to you, I'm doubtful that there'll be a meaningful result.eumaas wrote:Whatever you say, Mr. No Such Thing As Prototypes.Dr. Medulla wrote:Just not in the boobs.eumaas wrote:Lakoff called. He's gonna kick you in the balls.Dr. Medulla wrote:Pedantic?! Says the guy who takes exception to lay definitions of corporatism …eumaas wrote: Pedantic epileptics in Saskatchewan.
"Ain't no party like an S Club party!'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
Re: Free market?
You're saying it's too subjective?Dr. Medulla wrote:I'm not being an absolutist. I'm suggesting that on some topics—and in this case sexuality—I'm quite dubious. Take photos of, say, twenty sets of notably different breasts (or butts or cute) and tell a person, which looks most like boobs (butt/cute) to you, I'm doubtful that there'll be a meaningful result.eumaas wrote:Whatever you say, Mr. No Such Thing As Prototypes.Dr. Medulla wrote:Just not in the boobs.eumaas wrote:Lakoff called. He's gonna kick you in the balls.Dr. Medulla wrote: Pedantic?! Says the guy who takes exception to lay definitions of corporatism …
Explain this, then:
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I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy