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Do y'all know whether any of these anarchist writers have looked to the historical migratory indigenous nations in North America?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:02pm
Do y'all know whether any of these anarchist writers have looked to the historical migratory indigenous nations in North America?
I can't recall any. Are you thinking of something analogous to what James C. Scott proposes for Zomia?
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eumaas wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:02pm
Do y'all know whether any of these anarchist writers have looked to the historical migratory indigenous nations in North America?
I can't recall any. Are you thinking of something analogous to what James C. Scott proposes for Zomia?
I'm unfamiliar with any of that. I'm just curious whether anarchist critics/advocates have seen considered indigenous peoples (I'm chiefly thinking those who operated on the prairies) as a model. They were obviously not individualistic societies—hierarchical and of familial reciprocity—but operated without state institutions. They're also of value for examining how such societies succumb to state power. I've quizzed the boss about this because her expertise is prairie Metis and her current research deals with the borderlands, how Metis and First Nations dealt with the Canadian, American, and British state. But she's not a political science person. She considers these things more from a cultural end, of how these people sought to survive as the state structures worked their way west and shutdown indigenous economies and movement.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:52pm
eumaas wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:02pm
Do y'all know whether any of these anarchist writers have looked to the historical migratory indigenous nations in North America?
I can't recall any. Are you thinking of something analogous to what James C. Scott proposes for Zomia?
I'm unfamiliar with any of that. I'm just curious whether anarchist critics/advocates have seen considered indigenous peoples (I'm chiefly thinking those who operated on the prairies) as a model. They were obviously not individualistic societies—hierarchical and of familial reciprocity—but operated without state institutions. They're also of value for examining how such societies succumb to state power. I've quizzed the boss about this because her expertise is prairie Metis and her current research deals with the borderlands, how Metis and First Nations dealt with the Canadian, American, and British state. But she's not a political science person. She considers these things more from a cultural end, of how these people sought to survive as the state structures worked their way west and shutdown indigenous economies and movement.
I'd love to get properly educated on Native American culture.
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Silent Majority wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 1:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:52pm
eumaas wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
13 Apr 2018, 12:02pm
Do y'all know whether any of these anarchist writers have looked to the historical migratory indigenous nations in North America?
I can't recall any. Are you thinking of something analogous to what James C. Scott proposes for Zomia?
I'm unfamiliar with any of that. I'm just curious whether anarchist critics/advocates have seen considered indigenous peoples (I'm chiefly thinking those who operated on the prairies) as a model. They were obviously not individualistic societies—hierarchical and of familial reciprocity—but operated without state institutions. They're also of value for examining how such societies succumb to state power. I've quizzed the boss about this because her expertise is prairie Metis and her current research deals with the borderlands, how Metis and First Nations dealt with the Canadian, American, and British state. But she's not a political science person. She considers these things more from a cultural end, of how these people sought to survive as the state structures worked their way west and shutdown indigenous economies and movement.
I'd love to get properly educated on Native American culture.
Shoulda been nicer to Vince, hmmm?
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Giving up on my Monday night socialist party meetings. Every serious inquiry haa reaffirmed my position as an anarchist.
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Silent Majority wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:38pm
Giving up on my Monday night socialist party meetings. Every serious inquiry haa reaffirmed my position as an anarchist.
Weren’t you hanging with Trots? They have the amazing ability to recognize a problem but offer no analysis as to why such a problem occurred. At least anarchism, libertarian Marxism, and Maoism actually offer possible reasons for why the USSR went bad.
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eumaas wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:53pm
Silent Majority wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:38pm
Giving up on my Monday night socialist party meetings. Every serious inquiry haa reaffirmed my position as an anarchist.
Weren’t you hanging with Trots? They have the amazing ability to recognize a problem but offer no analysis as to why such a problem occurred. At least anarchism, libertarian Marxism, and Maoism actually offer possible reasons for why the USSR went bad.
I’m frankly disturbed by the number of Tankies popping up in my twitter feed.
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Wolter wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 3:43pm
eumaas wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:53pm
Silent Majority wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:38pm
Giving up on my Monday night socialist party meetings. Every serious inquiry haa reaffirmed my position as an anarchist.
Weren’t you hanging with Trots? They have the amazing ability to recognize a problem but offer no analysis as to why such a problem occurred. At least anarchism, libertarian Marxism, and Maoism actually offer possible reasons for why the USSR went bad.
I’m frankly disturbed by the number of Tankies popping up in my twitter feed.
There is some logic to to a resurgence of authoritarianism on the left. If a frustration with /rejection of neoliberal democracy is driving right-wing authoritarianism, why wouldn't that same affection for strongman politics see a rebirth on the left. As well, given that much of the left for decades, rejecting Stalinism and Maoism, has been driven by an aversion to or at least suspicion of power, it's created a space for those who somehow identify as left and want real and hard power.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 4:07pm
Wolter wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 3:43pm
eumaas wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:53pm
Silent Majority wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:38pm
Giving up on my Monday night socialist party meetings. Every serious inquiry haa reaffirmed my position as an anarchist.
Weren’t you hanging with Trots? They have the amazing ability to recognize a problem but offer no analysis as to why such a problem occurred. At least anarchism, libertarian Marxism, and Maoism actually offer possible reasons for why the USSR went bad.
I’m frankly disturbed by the number of Tankies popping up in my twitter feed.
There is some logic to to a resurgence of authoritarianism on the left. If a frustration with /rejection of neoliberal democracy is driving right-wing authoritarianism, why wouldn't that same affection for strongman politics see a rebirth on the left. As well, given that much of the left for decades, rejecting Stalinism and Maoism, has been driven by an aversion to or at least suspicion of power, it's created a space for those who somehow identify as left and want real and hard power.
The weirdest thing is instead of arguing with anti-communist slandering of the USSR, like a lot of the old guard used to, they seem to embrace the stories of atrocities as good and proper.
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Wolter wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 4:26pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 4:07pm
Wolter wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 3:43pm
eumaas wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:53pm
Silent Majority wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 1:38pm
Giving up on my Monday night socialist party meetings. Every serious inquiry haa reaffirmed my position as an anarchist.
Weren’t you hanging with Trots? They have the amazing ability to recognize a problem but offer no analysis as to why such a problem occurred. At least anarchism, libertarian Marxism, and Maoism actually offer possible reasons for why the USSR went bad.
I’m frankly disturbed by the number of Tankies popping up in my twitter feed.
There is some logic to to a resurgence of authoritarianism on the left. If a frustration with /rejection of neoliberal democracy is driving right-wing authoritarianism, why wouldn't that same affection for strongman politics see a rebirth on the left. As well, given that much of the left for decades, rejecting Stalinism and Maoism, has been driven by an aversion to or at least suspicion of power, it's created a space for those who somehow identify as left and want real and hard power.
The weirdest thing is instead of arguing with anti-communist slandering of the USSR, like a lot of the old guard used to, they seem to embrace the stories of atrocities as good and proper.
The 1930s are back, baby, for the left and the right!
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The weirdest thing to me is that Trotskyism avoids the authoritarian label. I suspect it’s down to how influential the Trots have been on academia. Even though the substance of Trotskyism has huge overlaps with Stalinism.
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Rat Patrol wrote:
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Going down to the local anarchist group on Tuesday, hoping for a better experience than I had with the Trots. This era of my life is going to read like a section from the early biography of a famous murderer.
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