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There's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350

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Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 5:52am
There's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:34am
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 5:52am
There's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:34am
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 5:52am
There's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
As Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.

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Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 7:09am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:34am
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 5:52am
There's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
As Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.
This comparison, tho dated, also helps illustrate priorities: £30M was raised for Ethiopian relief at Live Aid. Two months later, the British govt sold £43B of weapons to Saudi Arabia—more than 1400 Live Aid concerts.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 7:28am
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 7:09am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:34am
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 5:52am
There's just not enough money to help poor and vulnerable people, warns World Bank chief David Malpass. Can't help feeling I've heard that name before somewhere. I'm sure it will come to me in a minute!

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63386350
And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
As Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.
This comparison, tho dated, also helps illustrate priorities: £30M was raised for Ethiopian relief at Live Aid. Two months later, the British govt sold £43B of weapons to Saudi Arabia—more than 1400 Live Aid concerts.
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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 7:33am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 7:28am
Low Down Low wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 7:09am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:34am


And if we can't help everyone, it's best if we help no one. In fact, we should probably exaggerate the disparities even more just to remove all doubt.
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
As Yuval Noah Harari noted in a recent essay, the US government spent 3.5% of GDP rescuing financial institutions, including the one led by Malpass, deemed "too big to fail" in 2008/09 while the estimated 2% of GDP that would all but tackle the energy and climate crises just isn't possible right now for, well.....reasons.
This comparison, tho dated, also helps illustrate priorities: £30M was raised for Ethiopian relief at Live Aid. Two months later, the British govt sold £43B of weapons to Saudi Arabia—more than 1400 Live Aid concerts.
Guy with enormous piles of gold behind him emptying his pockets and saying, "Where will we find the money???"
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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
That comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:19am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
That comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.
Fisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:
Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii21/a ... uture-city

In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:
Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).
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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:23am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:19am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
That comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.
Fisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:
Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii21/a ... uture-city

In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:
Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).
Thanks for doing the legwork for me! I'll adjust my notes accordingly.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:34am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:23am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:19am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
That comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.
Fisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:
Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii21/a ... uture-city

In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:
Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).
Thanks for doing the legwork for me! I'll adjust my notes accordingly.
Make sure to tell the class you figured it out all yourself though. :shifty:
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Flex wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:40am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:34am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:23am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:19am
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 6:53am
As Zizek says (modifying Jameson): it's easier to imagine the end of the world than a 3% tax hike on the rich.
That comes from Jameson? I've understood that it was Mark Fisher with the line, It's easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism. I'll have to make a note to confirm that because I've credited it to Fisher in a lecture on postmodernism and hauntology.
Fisher got it from Zizek who got it from Jameson. But even in Jameson it's attributed to someone else:
Someone once said that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fredric Jameson, The Seeds of Time (New York: Columbia University Press, 1994), xii; and “Future City,” New Left Review 21 (May/June 2003), 76.
https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii21/a ... uture-city

In Capitalist Realism Fisher attributes it to Jameson and Zizek:
Watching Children of Men, we are inevitably reminded of the phrase attributed to Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
Fisher, Mark. Capitalist Realism (p. 8).
Thanks for doing the legwork for me! I'll adjust my notes accordingly.
Make sure to tell the class you figured it out all yourself though. :shifty:
If that's the case, I'll credit myself with the observation. "And if you come across that line in a book, kids, they got it from me!"
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The line was fresh in my mind because I'm reading Zizek's new book (which is more or less the same as his other books).
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eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:55am
The line was fresh in my mind because I'm reading Zizek's new book (which is more or less the same as his other books).
When I was researching the work of C. Wright Mills, I was initially daunted/humbled by his output. And then realized, Jesus fuck, this guy is publishing the same article multiple times with only superficial changes, and then turning them into book chapters. Work smart, not hard, I guess.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 12:00pm
eumaas wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 11:55am
The line was fresh in my mind because I'm reading Zizek's new book (which is more or less the same as his other books).
When I was researching the work of C. Wright Mills, I was initially daunted/humbled by his output. And then realized, Jesus fuck, this guy is publishing the same article multiple times with only superficial changes, and then turning them into book chapters. Work smart, not hard, I guess.
Zizek has a few books that stand out as coherent wholes, but a lot of his books are just theme and variation remixes of his articles that already draw on prior work. I used to hate him but have come around over the past few years, so every now and then I check out something new he's done. But he often reminds me of circumstantiality and hypergraphia from Geschwind syndrome.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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