Limey'lection '17

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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by eumaas » 09 Jun 2017, 2:37pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 2:09pm
Silent Majority wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 11:47am
Silent Majority wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 4:24am
Pretty good.
Like our Prime Minister likes to say, let me be clear; this is fucking great.
I'm hoping (perhaps against hope) that Canada's social democrats, who will be electing a new leader, take the correct reading of all this and shift the fuck left. The Conservatives just picked another Harperite and the Young Prince is, well, a neoliberal himself, albeit one who smiles nice and does seem legit on a number of social and cultural issues. There is a populist opening for a left party, but I'm skeptical that the party, too dominated by lawyers, social workers, and other professionals, will see that sense.
The conservatism of the professional class is definitely an obstacle. Has been in the UK and US for sure.
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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by Dr. Medulla » 09 Jun 2017, 4:05pm

eumaas wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 2:37pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 2:09pm
Silent Majority wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 11:47am
Silent Majority wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 4:24am
Pretty good.
Like our Prime Minister likes to say, let me be clear; this is fucking great.
I'm hoping (perhaps against hope) that Canada's social democrats, who will be electing a new leader, take the correct reading of all this and shift the fuck left. The Conservatives just picked another Harperite and the Young Prince is, well, a neoliberal himself, albeit one who smiles nice and does seem legit on a number of social and cultural issues. There is a populist opening for a left party, but I'm skeptical that the party, too dominated by lawyers, social workers, and other professionals, will see that sense.
The conservatism of the professional class is definitely an obstacle. Has been in the UK and US for sure.
I've been saying for a long time that the NDP can't become truly useful until the "educated class" get shuffled into a supportive/advisory role rather than a leadership one. Even the best of intentions get corrupted by a self-interested myopia that leads to paternalism or outright co-option.
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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by Dr. Medulla » 09 Jun 2017, 5:41pm

Hands down, the UK must have the best politics: http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-you-n ... 1795957578
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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by Inder » 09 Jun 2017, 10:47pm

I enjoyed this:


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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by Dr. Medulla » 10 Jun 2017, 6:29am

Two-thirds of the Tory caucus want her gone: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06 ... isastrous/

Boris Johnson, so the UK and US leaders look like brothers!
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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by Rat Patrol » 10 Jun 2017, 7:27am

Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 Jun 2017, 5:41pm
Hands down, the UK must have the best politics: http://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-you-n ... 1795957578
I wondered what he's been doing since leaving Guns n' Roses. :hmm:
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Re: Limey'lection '17

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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by Dr. Medulla » 10 Jun 2017, 10:46am

Inder wrote:
10 Jun 2017, 10:15am
I really enjoyed this: http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/th ... -972873248
From Brexit to Trump to this, it's evident how the neoliberal norm dominates the expert class, and how difficult it is for them to consider that certain norms are no longer so amongst the masses. To a degree, I don't hold it against them—it's asking a lot to tell a successful person that everything they understand is increasingly being discredited—but there's no excuse now not to be more self-critical and open-minded about what's going on outside the cocktail parties. As shitty as the world is and the greater crises looming, but it's remarkable to be alive at a time when leftist ideas are gaining in appeal, and that it's happening rather organically. That is, for the most part leftist thinkers have dropped the ball the last several decades, but it's the tipping point failures of neoliberalism, globalization, and austerity themselves that are pushing more people leftward. What's amusing to me is reading the neoliberals respond by calling people whiners or morons, or arguing that the good times are just around the corner, just give it more time—they sound like goddamned 20th c. Communists, operating on a bullying faith when reality was so confounding. As historians like to say, history doesn't repeat but it does rhyme.
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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by eumaas » 10 Jun 2017, 10:51am

Periodic reminder that Jamie Kirchick is actively evil.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: Limey'lection '17

Post by Dr. Medulla » 12 Jun 2017, 4:17pm

Walrus birth doesn't make good breakfast conversation!

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