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Finland September 23rd 2008: School shooting, the score is 9 dead at the moment...

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europ ... index.html

Like the last years Jokela incident was not enough. Fuck this.
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Here's the shooter:

http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2008092 ... 4_uu.shtml

A copycat of Jokela's Auvinen. The fucker sent out an Youtube message this morning just before the massacre. Auvinen did the same last year.
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Any sense of the reasons involved in this? That is, is it wholly random disturbed individual or has there been an increase in gun violence in Finland, and this is just a more obvious event?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:Any sense of the reasons involved in this? That is, is it wholly random disturbed individual or has there been an increase in gun violence in Finland, and this is just a more obvious event?
I have not had the chance to study the background of this incident, but it seems that the act is precisely similar to the Jokela Youtube killings. I would say that there has not been any more gun violence or school violence in general in Finland since Jokela. However, there has obviously been threats made to several schools though after last November, but this was the first incident when something has happened since then. This killer seems like a random copycat.
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Thanks. You're a teacher, aren't you? That has to add an extra level of queasiness to all this.
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Yes I am, Doc. I don't know what to think. This truly was a shock.

The death toll is currently 11. 10 victims and the killer. He shot himself and died in a hospital later.

Oh yes, the police had interrogated the shooter yesterday about his hate messages on the net. They had no grounds to arrest him or take away his gun, however. The officers in question will surely remember this day. Think about that.
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The past month has seen a rash of school shootings here in Toronto. It hadn't been much of a problem around these parts 'til now.

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threecoffins wrote:The past month has seen a rash of school shootings here in Toronto. It hadn't been much of a problem around these parts 'til now.
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tepista wrote:
threecoffins wrote:The past month has seen a rash of school shootings here in Toronto. It hadn't been much of a problem around these parts 'til now.
Michael Moore told me there weren't any guns in Canada.
No, he actually pointed out that there is a high degree of gun ownership in Canada—mainly rifles for hunting—but that the level of gun violence is considerably less than the US (he suggests for cultural reasons, and I'd say he's more correct than not). His dumbest stunt re. Canada in Bowling For Columbine was to suggest that no one locks their doors here.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
tepista wrote:
threecoffins wrote:The past month has seen a rash of school shootings here in Toronto. It hadn't been much of a problem around these parts 'til now.
Michael Moore told me there weren't any guns in Canada.
No, he actually pointed out that there is a high degree of gun ownership in Canada—mainly rifles for hunting—but that the level of gun violence is considerably less than the US (he suggests for cultural reasons, and I'd say he's more correct than not). His dumbest stunt re. Canada in Bowling For Columbine was to suggest that no one locks their doors here.
Yeah, you can still buy handguns on the black market like anywhere, it's just less prevalent.

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Vim -- I am really sorry to hear about this.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:His dumbest stunt re. Canada in Bowling For Columbine was to suggest that no one locks their doors here.
Yeah, I thought that was funny.

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Now if every kid in college was issued with a gun instead of a pencil this would never happen.

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101Walterton wrote:Now if every kid in college was issued with a gun instead of a pencil this would never happen.
Troll baiter … ;)
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
101Walterton wrote:Now if every kid in college was issued with a gun instead of a pencil this would never happen.
Troll baiter … ;)
Just making my point via sarcasm.

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