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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 02 Feb 2017, 6:51pm

I'm trying to not engage in negativity for the sake of negativity, but: Go fuck yourselves, Clintons and HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... 5206e687d8?
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Flex » 02 Feb 2017, 6:59pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:51pm
I'm trying to not engage in negativity for the sake of negativity, but: Go fuck yourselves, Clintons and HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... 5206e687d8?
This is just what we needed right now.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Mimi » 03 Feb 2017, 10:00am

Flex wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:51pm
I'm trying to not engage in negativity for the sake of negativity, but: Go fuck yourselves, Clintons and HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... 5206e687d8?
This is just what we needed right now.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by JennyB » 03 Feb 2017, 10:26am

Mimi wrote:
03 Feb 2017, 10:00am
Flex wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:51pm
I'm trying to not engage in negativity for the sake of negativity, but: Go fuck yourselves, Clintons and HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... 5206e687d8?
This is just what we needed right now.
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As do I.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by BostonBeaneater » 03 Feb 2017, 11:13am

JennyB wrote:
03 Feb 2017, 10:26am
Mimi wrote:
03 Feb 2017, 10:00am
Flex wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:51pm
I'm trying to not engage in negativity for the sake of negativity, but: Go fuck yourselves, Clintons and HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... 5206e687d8?
This is just what we needed right now.
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Agree with your disagreement
As do I.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by matedog » 03 Feb 2017, 2:17pm

JennyB wrote:
03 Feb 2017, 10:26am
Mimi wrote:
03 Feb 2017, 10:00am
Flex wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Feb 2017, 6:51pm
I'm trying to not engage in negativity for the sake of negativity, but: Go fuck yourselves, Clintons and HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... 5206e687d8?
This is just what we needed right now.
DISAGREE
Agree with your disagreement
As do I.
Good lord, that article.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 13 Feb 2017, 5:59pm

Rat Patrol wrote:
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Neoliberalism, day ending in -y:

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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Rat Patrol » 16 Feb 2017, 12:33pm

https://www.salon.com/2017/02/16/the-de ... activists/

Bernie you shitheaded traitor, why won't you make all our bad fee-fees go away by using your mind-control device on the Soros-paid mob? K thx bye. (dickface)
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 16 Feb 2017, 1:19pm

Rat Patrol wrote:
16 Feb 2017, 12:33pm
https://www.salon.com/2017/02/16/the-de ... activists/

Bernie you shitheaded traitor, why won't you make all our bad fee-fees go away by using your mind-control device on the Soros-paid mob? K thx bye. (dickface)
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Flex » 25 Feb 2017, 5:41pm

Fuck this stupid asshole party.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Dr. Medulla » 25 Feb 2017, 5:57pm

Clearly, the faction of the party that lost to a mentally unbalanced fascist has earned the chance to lead it into battle again.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Rat Patrol » 25 Feb 2017, 7:01pm

Heh. And people thought there was actually a horse race here.

There was some article yesterday interviewing a bunch of random DNC delegates voting in this shindig, and every single one of them said ideology doesn't matter at all in this race...organizing and fundraising experience does.

It was in the bag the second Obama endorsed Perez four months ago. And doubleplus in the bag when the party's #1 billionaire donor, a dyed-in-wool Zionist, warned the DNC not to elect Ellison The Feeelthy Mooslim. Anyone expecting this to play out any other way with any sort of drama was very naive.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Flex » 26 Feb 2017, 4:17pm

As far as such things go, Tom Perez doesn't seem like a bad guy. I imagine it feels sort of shitty to be considered the right/centrist candidate if I'm in his shoes. It just seems insane to me that the calculation went that the young left that supported Bernie will come into the Dem fold regardless. People my age? Sure. As much as it annoys me about myself, I'll probably usually be a reliable hold-your-nose and pull the lever for the D voter-type, but the younger half of millennials - study after study shows - have no such allegiance. I guess the assumption is that, similar to Dubya before, Trump will be so loathed by the younger half of millennials that they'll end up reliable Ds. But that's putting a lot of eggs in the basket that younger millennials will respond the same as older millennials, and the evidence isn't really there for that.

I dunno, fundraising chops aside (and I'm confident Ellison could have secured a decent fundraising apparatus in any case) it seems like a huge gamble when it would have been relatively low hanging fruit to lock up a less-than-reliable portion of the voting block (olds and center-lefts are a locked-in base, and already motivated enough by Trump to be reliable Dem activists, so appealing to them seems unnecessary even if they really make up the base of the party).

Perez is more progressive than his harshest critics give him credit for, and I do agree that it's partly the influence of the left wing that he was, essentially, considered the most right/centrist possible candidate who could realistically be viable and that he's probably to the left of the average Dems house rep. So, that's sort of interesting but again makes the whole race feel a bit unecessary.

I've seen speculation the move to recruit Perez by Obama was a way of (rightly, by this way of thinking) slapping down Bernie Sanders for his selfishness and insolence. So, there's that take, I guess.
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Re: The Future of the Democratic Party

Post by Flex » 26 Feb 2017, 4:20pm

Rat Patrol wrote:
25 Feb 2017, 7:01pm
There was some article yesterday interviewing a bunch of random DNC delegates voting in this shindig, and every single one of them said ideology doesn't matter at all in this race...organizing and fundraising experience does.
There are other interviews circulating saying that folks voted for Perez to keep the party leadership as centrist as possible, so I think it's probably a mixed bag in terms of motivation.
It was in the bag the second Obama endorsed Perez four months ago. And doubleplus in the bag when the party's #1 billionaire donor, a dyed-in-wool Zionist, warned the DNC not to elect Ellison The Feeelthy Mooslim. Anyone expecting this to play out any other way with any sort of drama was very naive.
The anti-israel/muslim-fearmongering angle that bubbled up in prominence at the 11th hour was extremely disgusting, merits of either candidate aside. Dem leadership should (but won't be) extremely embarrassed by that shit.
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