The Future of the Democratic Party

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Also this (the images not the comments):


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Flex wrote:
eumaas wrote:Liberal Twitter has now united on the proposition that George W. Bush is a good guy.

But also, Ralph Nader is still evil even tho Bush was Actually Good.
This little move to veneration for Dubya over the weekend has made me ill.
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That is beyond repulsive. Disgusting Orwellian rewriting of events and their consequences. Choosing Clinton out of fear is the only moral justification for giving her your vote.
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Flex wrote:
eumaas wrote:Liberal Twitter has now united on the proposition that George W. Bush is a good guy.

But also, Ralph Nader is still evil even tho Bush was Actually Good.
This little move to veneration for Dubya over the weekend has made me ill.
It's crazy. I don't get it. I mean, he does stuff to kind of make you feel sorry for him (his "art"), but FFS, he's not a good guy.
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If you're going to vote enthusiastically for Clinton, there's probably very little that Bush did which you disappove of. It's only the sports rival approach to the two party system that meant a lot of Dems hated him. They've shown with their Obama adulation how accepting they are of ongoing war.

Likewise, the UK soft left are happier to vote Theresa May than Corbyn. Ideas and principles don't seem to matter to them, any more than wanting Arsenal to beat Chelsea comes down to a philosophical difference.
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JennyB wrote:
Flex wrote:
eumaas wrote:Liberal Twitter has now united on the proposition that George W. Bush is a good guy.

But also, Ralph Nader is still evil even tho Bush was Actually Good.
This little move to veneration for Dubya over the weekend has made me ill.
It's crazy. I don't get it. I mean, he does stuff to kind of make you feel sorry for him (his "art"), but FFS, he's not a good guy.

It's a bygones be bygones sort of thing I think. I don't like W. but seeing his mug just doesn't elicit the contempt it did eight years ago. Compared to Trump and his chomo* sidekick GW seems awfully palatable.


*Chomo: prison slang for child molester.
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BostonBeaneater wrote:
JennyB wrote:
Flex wrote:
eumaas wrote:Liberal Twitter has now united on the proposition that George W. Bush is a good guy.

But also, Ralph Nader is still evil even tho Bush was Actually Good.
This little move to veneration for Dubya over the weekend has made me ill.
It's crazy. I don't get it. I mean, he does stuff to kind of make you feel sorry for him (his "art"), but FFS, he's not a good guy.

It's a bygones be bygones sort of thing I think. I don't like W. but seeing his mug just doesn't elicit the contempt it did eight years ago. Compared to Trump and his chomo* sidekick GW seems awfully palatable.


*Chomo: prison slang for child molester.
Pence is a chomo? Also, how do you know of such slang? :shifty:
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Silent Majority wrote:If you're going to vote enthusiastically for Clinton, there's probably very little that Bush did which you disappove of. It's only the sports rival approach to the two party system that meant a lot of Dems hated him. They've shown with their Obama adulation how accepting they are of ongoing war.

Likewise, the UK soft left are happier to vote Theresa May than Corbyn. Ideas and principles don't seem to matter to them, any more than wanting Arsenal to beat Chelsea comes down to a philosophical difference.
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JennyB wrote:
BostonBeaneater wrote:
JennyB wrote:
Flex wrote:
eumaas wrote:Liberal Twitter has now united on the proposition that George W. Bush is a good guy.

But also, Ralph Nader is still evil even tho Bush was Actually Good.
This little move to veneration for Dubya over the weekend has made me ill.
It's crazy. I don't get it. I mean, he does stuff to kind of make you feel sorry for him (his "art"), but FFS, he's not a good guy.

It's a bygones be bygones sort of thing I think. I don't like W. but seeing his mug just doesn't elicit the contempt it did eight years ago. Compared to Trump and his chomo* sidekick GW seems awfully palatable.


*Chomo: prison slang for child molester.
Pence is a chomo? Also, how do you know of such slang? :shifty:
He's a total chomo. I read a lot about prison slang and culture. I'm forward thinking.
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Forgot to share the best one.

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The woke liberal refusal to self-evaluate is coming along quite nicely: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/opinions/ ... index.html
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Flex wrote:The woke liberal refusal to self-evaluate is coming along quite nicely: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/opinions/ ... index.html
Not sure I want to hate-read this morning. Does she acknowledge abstention and disenfranchisement at any point?
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Flex wrote:The woke liberal refusal to self-evaluate is coming along quite nicely: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/opinions/ ... index.html
That makes me think of something I related earlier this summer: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3762&p=440665#p440665

I've read so many angry pieces by women the last couple days blaming female Trump voters for selling themselves out. What isn't appreciated is that we can be divided and grouped in so many ways—sex/gender, race, nationality/region, class, generation, etc—and circumstances often dictate how we rank these things. Feminism may be strongest amongst middle-class white women because race and class aren't a great concern for them—that is, those categories are already advantages—whereas gender discrimination is a constant problem. So, of course, feminism is high in their self-perception and demands. For economically marginalized women, class may matter more. We can't say for certain that the women who voted for Trump don't care about his misogyny and that they knowingly sold out other women. It might just be that paying the bills mattered more and they took a chance with the guy who said the economy stinks and he'd turn it around. Shitting on those women for being stupid may feel satisfying, but it doesn't get you any closer to understanding the rationale of female Trump voters.
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eumaas wrote:Not sure I want to hate-read this morning. Does she acknowledge abstention and disenfranchisement at any point?
No. Her conclusion is that too many poor, uneducated women have chosen the safety and security of patriarchy over real freedom. No mention of declining voter rates.
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Flex wrote:
eumaas wrote:Not sure I want to hate-read this morning. Does she acknowledge abstention and disenfranchisement at any point?
No. Her conclusion is that too many poor, uneducated women have chosen the safety and security of patriarchy over real freedom. No mention of declining voter rates.
No mention of voter ID laws, I would imagine.
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