Should this bother anyone?
Re: Should this bother anyone?
I don't have time for this Hookmaas. We mean the same things, we're just talking past each other. It's done. Fuck it.
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Re: Should this bother anyone?
If this nitpicking excercise is a bad thing, why are you still holding the comb?Dr. Medulla wrote:I'm hardly a shut-in. I'm not overly gregarious, but I'm not a shut-in either. This all seems to be a nit-picking exercise. I'm not saying that people alone, just their mere presence makes you happy, that they somehow transmit happiness to you like a campfire does heat. But their presence is required to generate the conditions that might make you happy thru your deeds and interactions. The onus is still on you and the results are due to your efforts, but they cannot be achieved in isolation.eumaas wrote:I never said not to socialize. You cannot rely on other people to make you happy. You will be disappointed.Wolter wrote:Well, of course. I believe one has to socialize in some form to survive. Even hermits have some interaction with the world around them, or did at some point in their life. But happiness and satisfaction are different than survival.Dr. Medulla wrote:I agree overall, but I think your view or perhaps just wording is still a bit skewed. Even if your happiness is fundamentally self-generated, if you don't socialize I question how happy you ever can be. Other people and our interactions with them are essential ingredients. You can perceive doing good deeds for others if they (other people) aren't there.Wolter wrote: I suspected as much. I didn't think it was time for another Hookmaas Holiday Special.
The point is that no one else can make you sad or make you happy. or make you dissatisfied or satisfied.
Strange how I, man of the crowd and party guy who loves hanging out with friends, am arguing this point with an admitted shut-in.
Reread what I said above - humans need each other to survive, so the interaction is already there. It is, however, immaterial to the actual state of happiness or sadness.
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Happiness is a sham. You will never be happy, no matter what. Case cuh-losed.
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Re: Should this bother anyone?
If this nitpicking excercise is a bad thing, why are you still holding the comb? [/quote]Wolter wrote:I'm hardly a shut-in. I'm not overly gregarious, but I'm not a shut-in either. This all seems to be a nit-picking exercise. I'm not saying that people alone, just their mere presence makes you happy, that they somehow transmit happiness to you like a campfire does heat. But their presence is required to generate the conditions that might make you happy thru your deeds and interactions. The onus is still on you and the results are due to your efforts, but they cannot be achieved in isolation.Dr. Medulla wrote:I never said not to socialize. You cannot rely on other people to make you happy. You will be disappointed.eumaas wrote:Well, of course. I believe one has to socialize in some form to survive. Even hermits have some interaction with the world around them, or did at some point in their life. But happiness and satisfaction are different than survival.Wolter wrote:I agree overall, but I think your view or perhaps just wording is still a bit skewed. Even if your happiness is fundamentally self-generated, if you don't socialize I question how happy you ever can be. Other people and our interactions with them are essential ingredients. You can perceive doing good deeds for others if they (other people) aren't there.Dr. Medulla wrote: I suspected as much. I didn't think it was time for another Hookmaas Holiday Special.
The point is that no one else can make you sad or make you happy. or make you dissatisfied or satisfied.
Strange how I, man of the crowd and party guy who loves hanging out with friends, am arguing this point with an admitted shut-in.
Apparently to be a dick. It'd be appreciated if folks let me know what topics are open for discussion when there is disagreement and those where dissent is verboten.
Honestly, I'm not following you here. Do we need others to actually survive? Well, not necessarily, if you're just talking about physical nourishment and making it day by day. But the quality of life would be pretty damn shitty regardless of the quantity and quality of the food and water. Simple question, then: can a person be happy with absolutely no human contact, such as prison isolation?Reread what I said above - humans need each other to survive, so the interaction is already there. It is, however, immaterial to the actual state of happiness or sadness.
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Re: Should this bother anyone?
Surely it's a matter of individual temperament.
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Don't call me Shirley.Inder wrote:Surely it's a matter of individual temperament.
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Re: Should this bother anyone?
Both of you are both right and both wrong.Flex wrote:Don't call me Shirley.Inder wrote:Surely it's a matter of individual temperament.
I'm abandoning this line of discussion because I'm not 100% sure that I can explain the difference between subsistence and survival well enough to get my point across, nor get the point across that I believe that all personal emotions, thoughts, and feelings (happiness, sadness, frustration, contentment, etc.) happen inside your own brain and body and nowhere else and exterior events only affect your mental and emotional state to the extent that you are reacting to them.
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Re: Should this bother anyone?
I would love to discuss this but I am incredibly fucked up right now in more than one way.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Recreationally, medicinally, or both?eumaas wrote:I would love to discuss this but I am incredibly fucked up right now in more than one way.
Re: Should this bother anyone?
Medicinally, emotionally. Mentally.threecoffins wrote:Recreationally, medicinally, or both?eumaas wrote:I would love to discuss this but I am incredibly fucked up right now in more than one way.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Sorry to hear, man. Hope you feel better soon.eumaas wrote:Medicinally, emotionally. Mentally.threecoffins wrote:Recreationally, medicinally, or both?eumaas wrote:I would love to discuss this but I am incredibly fucked up right now in more than one way.
Re: Should this bother anyone?
JESUS IS DROWNING!!! SOMBEODDY SAVE JESUS!
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Re: Should this bother anyone?
He'll get no help from me after he went all psycho at my temple.eumaas wrote:JESUS IS DROWNING!!! SOMBEODDY SAVE JESUS!
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Re: Should this bother anyone?
A brief Bombay, Colosseus encountereumaas wrote:JESUS IS DROWNING!!! SOMBEODDY SAVE JESUS!
A holy rolling, rhino blessing
Two men in white, an advantage in height
In appearance unique, in action delivers
The light fades, the sun never never sets
A: a double blow, B: an immortal being
A creator lover, a bee-driver
A terraze wipe-out, a terraze wipeout
"I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back in Whittier, they're not much bigger than two meters.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft