Re: Today I learned …
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 7:00am
White Scum?101Walterton wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 6:53pmPalangi
White Scum?101Walterton wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 6:53pmPalangi
White Yum.Marky Dread wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 7:00amWhite Scum?101Walterton wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 6:53pmPalangiDr. Medulla wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 5:41pmFine, have one of mine.
Can’t it be both?Olaf wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 5:03pmWhite Yum.Marky Dread wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 7:00amWhite Scum?101Walterton wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 6:53pmPalangi
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.
And yet you still have people—predominantly on the right—who say it wasn't that bad and/or the price of “civilizing the savages.” The US, however, had the same idea with boarding schools (the Boss says they were the inspiration for the residential school here). But it's proof of the essential white supremacist foundation of this country … which is why it's denied by the most committed racists.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.
Yeah the English did the same in Australia too.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 9:21pmAnd yet you still have people—predominantly on the right—who say it wasn't that bad and/or the price of “civilizing the savages.” The US, however, had the same idea with boarding schools (the Boss says they were the inspiration for the residential school here). But it's proof of the essential white supremacist foundation of this country … which is why it's denied by the most committed racists.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.
We had them here in the US, too. The Carlisle school is probably the most infamous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_ ... ial_SchoolBostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.
That was the one that largely inspired Canada's res school program. As many people have observed before, it's amazing that indigenous and black people just want fair treatment today, not to murder every damned white person as payment for past crimes.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 7:57amWe had them here in the US, too. The Carlisle school is probably the most infamous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_ ... ial_SchoolBostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.
Fair treatment, honor the treaties...or just leave.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:09amThat was the one that largely inspired Canada's res school program. As many people have observed before, it's amazing that indigenous and black people just want fair treatment today, not to murder every damned white person as payment for past crimes.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 7:57amWe had them here in the US, too. The Carlisle school is probably the most infamous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_ ... ial_SchoolBostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.
Treaties signed out of desperation and were massively advantageous to the colonial powers, yet they still couldn't live up to their end of the deal. Okay, you can live here rent-free but all I ask is that you water the plants once a week and put your dirty dishes in the dishwasher. Fuck you, you can take me to court if you think I'm going to have to water your fucking plants.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:14amFair treatment, honor the treaties...or just leave.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:09amThat was the one that largely inspired Canada's res school program. As many people have observed before, it's amazing that indigenous and black people just want fair treatment today, not to murder every damned white person as payment for past crimes.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 7:57amWe had them here in the US, too. The Carlisle school is probably the most infamous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_ ... ial_SchoolBostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.
The other issues with treaties (as is the case with the Waitangi Treaty in NZ) is the interpretation / translation of the 2 languages which necessarily mean the same things.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:43amTreaties signed out of desperation and were massively advantageous to the colonial powers, yet they still couldn't live up to their end of the deal. Okay, you can live here rent-free but all I ask is that you water the plants once a week and put your dirty dishes in the dishwasher. Fuck you, you can take me to court if you think I'm going to have to water your fucking plants.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:14amFair treatment, honor the treaties...or just leave.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:09amThat was the one that largely inspired Canada's res school program. As many people have observed before, it's amazing that indigenous and black people just want fair treatment today, not to murder every damned white person as payment for past crimes.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 7:57amWe had them here in the US, too. The Carlisle school is probably the most infamous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_ ... ial_SchoolBostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.
And, at least until recently, the courts' habit of rejecting the indigenous signees' interpretation of what the treaties meant.101Walterton wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 4:32pmThe other issues with treaties (as is the case with the Waitangi Treaty in NZ) is the interpretation / translation of the 2 languages which necessarily mean the same things.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:43amTreaties signed out of desperation and were massively advantageous to the colonial powers, yet they still couldn't live up to their end of the deal. Okay, you can live here rent-free but all I ask is that you water the plants once a week and put your dirty dishes in the dishwasher. Fuck you, you can take me to court if you think I'm going to have to water your fucking plants.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:14amFair treatment, honor the treaties...or just leave.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 8:09amThat was the one that largely inspired Canada's res school program. As many people have observed before, it's amazing that indigenous and black people just want fair treatment today, not to murder every damned white person as payment for past crimes.Mimi wrote: ↑30 Jul 2019, 7:57am
We had them here in the US, too. The Carlisle school is probably the most infamous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle_ ... ial_School
Jesus.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 9:21pmAnd yet you still have people—predominantly on the right—who say it wasn't that bad and/or the price of “civilizing the savages.” The US, however, had the same idea with boarding schools (the Boss says they were the inspiration for the residential school here). But it's proof of the essential white supremacist foundation of this country … which is why it's denied by the most committed racists.BostonBeaneater wrote: ↑29 Jul 2019, 8:39pmToday I learned about the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was pretty shitty and went on until 1996! I'm staying in Toronto and the First Nations people had an event all weekend in honor of the people who survived this. It was damn solemn.
Super! People are pretty disgraceful.Responsible for separating Indigenous children from their families and communities, this process was found by the TRC to be cultural genocide, a conclusion that echoed the words of historian John S. Milloy, who argued that the system's aim was to "kill the Indian in the child". As the system was designed as an immersion program, Indigenous children were in many schools prohibited from, and sometimes punished for, speaking their own languages or practicing their own faiths. The primary stated goal was to convert Indigenous children to Christianity and to civilize them.