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Re: The IMCT Travel/Suggestions Thread

Post by WestwayKid » 17 Jun 2019, 2:53pm

We ended up skipping the hall of fame. My kids were not into it (they're 7 and 10) and I wasn't going to drag them along. Figured I wouldn't actually get to look at much. We'll go back one of these days without them. Building itself (on the outside) is not very impressive. Looks very dated.
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Post by tepista » 17 Jun 2019, 3:10pm

WestwayKid wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 2:53pm
We ended up skipping the hall of fame. My kids were not into it (they're 7 and 10) and I wasn't going to drag them along. Figured I wouldn't actually get to look at much. We'll go back one of these days without them. Building itself (on the outside) is not very impressive. Looks very dated.
You must not be teaching your kids about spin rate and launch angle, otherwise they'd be knocking down the doors.

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edit* Oh shit, you meant the RnR HoF, not baseball. Duh, Cleveland. I'm giving myself a self-imposed 48 hour ban of being smart-alecky
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Re: The IMCT Travel/Suggestions Thread

Post by BitterTom » 17 Jun 2019, 4:12pm

WestwayKid wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 2:53pm
We ended up skipping the hall of fame. My kids were not into it (they're 7 and 10) and I wasn't going to drag them along. Figured I wouldn't actually get to look at much. We'll go back one of these days without them. Building itself (on the outside) is not very impressive. Looks very dated.
What was on the itinerary instead? Shame the building hasn't been kept in good condition though.

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Post by Dr. Medulla » 17 Jun 2019, 4:25pm

I don't have any great urge to see the R&RHoF for a lot of reasons. I'm not all that into material history. Looking at a collection of things generally doesn't do much for me (which is probably why I'm drawn to intellectual history). I'm also not much of a fan of museums because they tend to be celebratory of their themes rather than critical. There are notable exceptions—the Holocaust Museum comes to mind—but the R&RHoF is definitely celebratory, about why you should admire these people. I can't stand that kind of proselytizing. And it's even more galling when the roots of rock & roll—and, at its best, its spirit—is something anti-institutional. It's supposed to be about pushing against restraints and official sanction, not being fossilized and placed high up for reverence. It's such a Jann Wenner kind of place.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 4:25pm
I don't have any great urge to see the R&RHoF for a lot of reasons. I'm not all that into material history. Looking at a collection of things generally doesn't do much for me (which is probably why I'm drawn to intellectual history). I'm also not much of a fan of museums because they tend to be celebratory of their themes rather than critical. There are notable exceptions—the Holocaust Museum comes to mind—but the R&RHoF is definitely celebratory, about why you should admire these people. I can't stand that kind of proselytizing. And it's even more galling when the roots of rock & roll—and, at its best, its spirit—is something anti-institutional. It's supposed to be about pushing against restraints and official sanction, not being fossilized and placed high up for reverence. It's such a Jann Wenner kind of place.
I largely agree but I still wanna see Paul's busted-up bass.
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Re: The IMCT Travel/Suggestions Thread

Post by WestwayKid » 17 Jun 2019, 7:09pm

Kory wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 6:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 4:25pm
I don't have any great urge to see the R&RHoF for a lot of reasons. I'm not all that into material history. Looking at a collection of things generally doesn't do much for me (which is probably why I'm drawn to intellectual history). I'm also not much of a fan of museums because they tend to be celebratory of their themes rather than critical. There are notable exceptions—the Holocaust Museum comes to mind—but the R&RHoF is definitely celebratory, about why you should admire these people. I can't stand that kind of proselytizing. And it's even more galling when the roots of rock & roll—and, at its best, its spirit—is something anti-institutional. It's supposed to be about pushing against restraints and official sanction, not being fossilized and placed high up for reverence. It's such a Jann Wenner kind of place.
I largely agree but I still wanna see Paul's busted-up bass.
Before we went - I felt kind of excited to go to the museum - at least I allowed myself to build up the idea to the point where I thought I wanted to go, but when we actually got there - I found I no longer had a great desire to see it. The fact that the kids didn't want to go was a bit of a relief. I guess I feel that something like music transcends the idea of a museum. I could go and see Joe's guitar - but what's more important to me is the music Joe made with that guitar and that music is something I can enjoy anywhere and anytime. Music lives and breathes. I just really don't have a desire to look at musical artifacts behind glass display cases.
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Re: The IMCT Travel/Suggestions Thread

Post by WestwayKid » 17 Jun 2019, 7:15pm

BitterTom wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 4:12pm
WestwayKid wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 2:53pm
We ended up skipping the hall of fame. My kids were not into it (they're 7 and 10) and I wasn't going to drag them along. Figured I wouldn't actually get to look at much. We'll go back one of these days without them. Building itself (on the outside) is not very impressive. Looks very dated.
What was on the itinerary instead? Shame the building hasn't been kept in good condition though.
We pretty much just bummed around. My girlfriend was there for a conference - so she was busy most of the time we were there - but my kids and I just sort of went where the wind took us. I did do a little research ahead of time - but it was cool not having an agenda. We checked out an old cemetery...visited a baseball museum...browsed a couple of used record shops...walked by the lakefront. I wasn't expecting much - but was pleasantly surprised. I don't know if I'd ever go back - but I enjoyed my time.

Probably the best part was that we parlayed the Cleveland trip into a visit to Niagara Falls (only 3 hours further) and that is something I've never seen. At 42 years of age it gets harder and harder to have my mind blown by anything - but the Falls are pretty mind blowing. I enjoyed the American side - it is less touristy. There is a state park right by the Falls. When we crossed over into Canada it got a lot more touristy - chain restaurants, wax museums, haunted houses, arcades, and on and on. I do like that kitsch to a point - but it was a bit overdone.
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Re: The IMCT Travel/Suggestions Thread

Post by Dr. Medulla » 17 Jun 2019, 7:19pm

WestwayKid wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 7:09pm
Kory wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 6:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 4:25pm
I don't have any great urge to see the R&RHoF for a lot of reasons. I'm not all that into material history. Looking at a collection of things generally doesn't do much for me (which is probably why I'm drawn to intellectual history). I'm also not much of a fan of museums because they tend to be celebratory of their themes rather than critical. There are notable exceptions—the Holocaust Museum comes to mind—but the R&RHoF is definitely celebratory, about why you should admire these people. I can't stand that kind of proselytizing. And it's even more galling when the roots of rock & roll—and, at its best, its spirit—is something anti-institutional. It's supposed to be about pushing against restraints and official sanction, not being fossilized and placed high up for reverence. It's such a Jann Wenner kind of place.
I largely agree but I still wanna see Paul's busted-up bass.
Before we went - I felt kind of excited to go to the museum - at least I allowed myself to build up the idea to the point where I thought I wanted to go, but when we actually got there - I found I no longer had a great desire to see it. The fact that the kids didn't want to go was a bit of a relief. I guess I feel that something like music transcends the idea of a museum. I could go and see Joe's guitar - but what's more important to me is the music Joe made with that guitar and that music is something I can enjoy anywhere and anytime. Music lives and breathes. I just really don't have a desire to look at musical artifacts behind glass display cases.
A couple summers ago, a copy of the Magna Carta came to Ottawa and was on display at the national museum. My sister came thru on a visit and insisted I go see it with her. "It's history," she said. Well, yeah, it's old and significant. But looking at it isn't going to alter my understanding one iota. It's not a piece of visual art, so there's nothing to it from the perspective. (For comparison, several years ago, the Boss and I were at the New York Historical Society Museum and to my delight, I found out it houses Thomas Cole's Course of Empire series of paintings, which are among my favourite paintings. I was just mesmerized by the size of them, able to go up so close to them.) I don't judge anyone who is into material history, but its appeal escapes me entirely. But that's part and parcel of me mostly living in my own head.
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Post by revbob » 17 Jun 2019, 7:52pm

Whoa a real copy of the real Magna Carta?

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Post by WestwayKid » 18 Jun 2019, 7:10am

revbob wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 7:52pm
Whoa a real copy of the real Magna Carta?

Also Mojo Nixon on rnrhof
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Post by eumaas » 20 Jun 2019, 9:51pm

Just finished meeting up with Hoy!
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eumaas wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:51pm
Just finished meeting up with Hoy!
What did you do with the body? :shifty:

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Post by eumaas » 20 Jun 2019, 9:55pm

revbob wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:52pm
eumaas wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:51pm
Just finished meeting up with Hoy!
What did you do with the body? :shifty:
Salad cream.
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Post by 101Walterton » 20 Jun 2019, 11:14pm

eumaas wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:55pm
revbob wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:52pm
eumaas wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:51pm
Just finished meeting up with Hoy!
What did you do with the body? :shifty:
Salad cream.
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Post by Dr. Medulla » 20 Jun 2019, 11:46pm

eumaas wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:55pm
revbob wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:52pm
eumaas wrote:
20 Jun 2019, 9:51pm
Just finished meeting up with Hoy!
What did you do with the body? :shifty:
Salad cream.
Salad cream is people!
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