BostonBeaneater wrote:ElvisIsKing1977 wrote:get a real motorcycle.
What would you consider that to be? I think harleys are cartoonish.
I hate HDs, too. All flash, useless chrome, and too-loud pipes ridden by people who don't like turning corners.
I won't recommend any specific models (well, maybe), but here are some thoughts:
1. Your first MC should NOT be the bike you intend to ride for the next 10 years. BUY A BEGINNER"S BIKE. By that I mean buy a bike you can learn on and ride it for a season or two, then sell it for the bike you want some serious seat time on. Don't worry about serious depreciation, such as cars have. MCs hold their value longer, and you won't take a hit. If you buy a 2005 Honda Shadow VLX for $3,000 this year, for example, I'd bet you could sell it the next year for the same price.
2. A beginner's bike is smaller and nimble. It should have a low center of gravity. I'd not buy anything over 500 pounds to begin with. The bikes in your photos are too tall, which makes balancing a lot harder. You don't need that distraction when you are first starting out.
3. Those bikes, with the exception of the older BMW (and maybe even that), are also way too powerful for a beginner. A small twist of the throttle will jerk the bike forward a lot, and you don't need that as a beginner. And if you think you will have good throttle control, you may ... under ideal conditions. But maybe not when you unexpectedly hit a pothole or are startled by a car suddenly pulling out in front of you.
4. Ride nekkid.
5. Ignore rule number 4.
6. As an MSF-certified instructor, I've ridden most of the bikes used in the course you plan to take (Bravo to you!). Any one of them would be a good beginner's bike. They have a dual road/trail bike in their mix, and maybe that's the one you'd want to select to ride during your two days of riding on the range. But if you'd only occasionally take a bike off-road, still buy just a street bike. This advice holds unless you are considering taking a SERIOUS off-road trail. A street bike, provided it's not super heavy, can do OK off the road as long as your off-road choices are not rugged gravel roads and not tree stump cluttered, rocky ravines. And you shouldn't do any of that on a new bike anyway, as you'd drop it numerous times. That kind of riding requires a completely different skill set.
7. How tall are you? if you're over 5' 10", then some of the MCs in the MSF school may be a bit too small for you. If you're that height or under, the Honda 250 Rebel or the 250 Nighthawk offered in your class would be fine beginner's bikes. Avoid the Suzuki GZ250 ... the ergonomics are bad. Another option is the Suzuki Savage (now called the Boulevard S40). If you're tall, the Honda Shadow mentioned above is a little on the heavy side, but OK due to its low seat height and overall stability. But avoid the newer 750cc Shadows. Get an older 583cc one.
8. I ride a Honda 750 Nighthawk, much larger that the 250cc version, and it has lots of power, especially at high RPM. You need power to get yourself out of bad situations (like a car swerving in front of you, or to get around potholes). But any bike, even the 250cc bikes mentioned above, will give you all the power you need. That's because they are hundreds of pounds lighter ... so their engines are more than enough to give you the zip you crave. Also, they can stop a hell of a lot faster ... and that can be the difference between life and death out there.
9. See my signature? Where it says I have faced death a few times? Those occasions have been while I was riding. Think hard about what you are proposing to do. It's fun, but dangerous. Make it less dangerous by absorbing all the good advice you'll get in the classroom about street riding strategies and cornering techniques. And then practice over and over again the skills you'll learn on the range. I do. Every day I ride, I'll practice a panic stop, or an emergency swerve, or stopping in a curve, etc. Remember that if you pass the skills test at the end of your second day, all that means is that you are competent at riding in an empty parking lot at low speeds. High-speed traffic and real life travel on the streets is 10 times harder and more distracting.
10. Have fun. Ride safely. Wear FULL gear, not just a helmet, EVERY SINGLE TIME you throw your leg over the seat. Deadly crashes can happen on a five-minute trip to the grocery store, too.
11. Obligatory Clash reference: Didn't Paul S. ride across the U.S. on a motorcycle when he was in Havana 3 a.m.? What make/model did he ride? Anyone know?
