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Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Dr. Medulla wrote: Funnier if we weren't being governed, federally and in a number of provinces, by socially repressive corporatists.
Corporatists? So your society is organized into guild-like corporations with functional representation in the legislature? Neat. Didn't know you lot liked Mussolini.
:rolleyes:
I'm just tired of the misappropriation of that word by shrill Green Party liberals.
And are you using the word liberal in its proper political science sense or contemporary common usage?
Bzzt. Liberal was qualified with Green Party rather than freestanding.
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eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote: Corporatists? So your society is organized into guild-like corporations with functional representation in the legislature? Neat. Didn't know you lot liked Mussolini.
:rolleyes:
I'm just tired of the misappropriation of that word by shrill Green Party liberals.
And are you using the word liberal in its proper political science sense or contemporary common usage?
Bzzt. Liberal was qualified with Green Party rather than freestanding.
Greens run the spectrum in terms of government involvement in the economy and people's lives, so the point remains—classical or contemporary?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote: :rolleyes:
I'm just tired of the misappropriation of that word by shrill Green Party liberals.
And are you using the word liberal in its proper political science sense or contemporary common usage?
Bzzt. Liberal was qualified with Green Party rather than freestanding.
Greens run the spectrum in terms of government involvement in the economy and people's lives, so the point remains—classical or contemporary?
I was referring to US Greens, so the latter.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
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eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote: I'm just tired of the misappropriation of that word by shrill Green Party liberals.
And are you using the word liberal in its proper political science sense or contemporary common usage?
Bzzt. Liberal was qualified with Green Party rather than freestanding.
Greens run the spectrum in terms of government involvement in the economy and people's lives, so the point remains—classical or contemporary?
I was referring to US Greens, so the latter.
Why would you cite the American Green Party when addressing/correcting me?
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote: I'm just tired of the misappropriation of that word by shrill Green Party liberals.
And are you using the word liberal in its proper political science sense or contemporary common usage?
Bzzt. Liberal was qualified with Green Party rather than freestanding.
Greens run the spectrum in terms of government involvement in the economy and people's lives, so the point remains—classical or contemporary?
I was referring to US Greens, so the latter.
Why would you cite the American Green Party when addressing/correcting me?[/quote]
Because, in coming from an American context, my irritation at the popular use of the word corporatism (and derivatives) comes as a result of its widespread use by left-Dems and Green Party types, i.e. domestic irritants. What reason would I have to reference, say, the Green Party of Illyria when referring to my being tired of the term's misappropriation by a certain segment of the politically active?
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eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote: I'm just tired of the misappropriation of that word by shrill Green Party liberals.
And are you using the word liberal in its proper political science sense or contemporary common usage?
Bzzt. Liberal was qualified with Green Party rather than freestanding.
Greens run the spectrum in terms of government involvement in the economy and people's lives, so the point remains—classical or contemporary?
I was referring to US Greens, so the latter.
Why would you cite the American Green Party when addressing/correcting me?[/quote]
Because, in coming from an American context, my irritation at the popular use of the word corporatism (and derivatives) comes as a result of its widespread use by left-Dems and Green Party types, i.e. domestic irritants. What reason would I have to reference, say, the Green Party of Illyria when referring to my being tired of the term's misappropriation by a certain segment of the politically active?[/quote]

But I'm not a member of the American Green Party (nor the Canadian, for that matter). Your initial statement was addressed to my incorrect (in your view) usage of the term corporatist, which you justified as due to your irritation with "shrill Green Party liberals," a term that may or may not describe me—I dunno. I mean, if you're going to correct my usage based on your interpretation of the term, I have every right to be just as pedantic in dissecting your terminology, from the use of the word liberal to that of Green Party. Corporatist may represent one set of values to you in strict political philosophy, I won't deny that, but in common usage, especially in North American politics, it's understood to means in the service of multinational corporations. Which, of course, you know.
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Wolter wrote:See how easy it is to get in a Circle Jerk, eummie?
I'm always pulling down my gotch for you guys. :disshame:
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Spiff wrote:
JennyB wrote:It's called a turn signal. Use it.
Whatever you do ... don't ever go to Italy. :shifty:
expecially in Venice, don't try to go with a car there, right Spiff?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

(if you had told me before you were going to italy, I'd warned you about the driving italian habits...)
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Dr. Medulla wrote:But I'm not a member of the American Green Party (nor the Canadian, for that matter).
Never implied you were.
Your initial statement was addressed to my incorrect (in your view) usage of the term corporatist,
Don't forget the tone--I was making a gag.
which you justified as due to your irritation with "shrill Green Party liberals,"
Explanation not justification--I feel that justification has a moral implication which is outside the scope of my gag.
a term that may or may not describe me—I dunno.
Not intended to refer to you at all.
I mean, if you're going to correct my usage based on your interpretation of the term, I have every right to be just as pedantic in dissecting your terminology, from the use of the word liberal to that of Green Party.
Sure, but you could at least try to make it funny.

Incidentally I use liberal in both senses. It depends on the context.
Corporatist may represent one set of values to you in strict political philosophy, I won't deny that,
I think it's valuable for corporatism to retain its original meaning, especially for those circumstances where it's compared with mutualism, Lenin's NEP, Stalin's collectivization, distributism, FDR's New Deal, and other theories/examples of economic reorganization.
but in common usage, especially in North American politics, it's understood to means in the service of multinational corporations. Which, of course, you know.
Yes, and I would be OK with the common usage as such because I am a linguist before I am a grammarian--I prefer descriptivism. However, the popular definition has been used for fallacies of equivocation where fascist corporatism proper and vulgar corporatism are equated. An example:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles5 ... ratism.htm

Such fallacious usage irritates the fuck out of me and contributes to my general dyspepsia. I wouldn't be so particular as to this word if it were not for the widespread repetition of this idiocy. So it goes on the (quite short) list of words that irritate me or piss me off along with "gyp."
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I got that it was mostly a gag, but I detected a certain linguistic scolding, hence Mr. Rolly Eyes. From there, well …
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I'm killing all Canadian editors before lawyers.
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eumaas wrote:I'm killing all Canadian editors before lawyers.
Take a number...
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Schnix wrote:
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Schnix wrote: I got yelled at by an old lady (in hindsight it might've been a raccoon), for walking on the wrong side of the side walk couple of years ago in Germany.
Yeah, but maybe you should mention that except for the clown shoes and the fake moustache, you were totally naked.
So a tranny with an Elvis fetish must have a hell of a time there then. :shifty:
A tranny with an Elvis fetish has a hell of a time anywhere.

Or so I'm told. :shifty:
Who pfaffed the pfaff? Who got pfaffed tonight?

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You Americans and your need to kill those with whom you disagree …
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