My thetans have been feeling a little discombobulated lately.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 10:23amWell, have I got some snake oil for you!Wolter wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 10:18amI never noticed. Probably because I’m hella mentally ill and always on medication.Mimi wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:29amExactly.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 7:25amI've had the same experience with my dentist. They always express some surprise or wariness when I say I'm not on any medication (which may be a bit more expected given the epilepsy). It really is suggestive, tho, of how entrenched pharmaceuticals are in our lives when the non-prescribed people arouse curiosity.
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Same.Wolter wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 10:18amI never noticed. Probably because I’m hella mentally ill and always on medication.Mimi wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:29amExactly.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 7:25amI've had the same experience with my dentist. They always express some surprise or wariness when I say I'm not on any medication (which may be a bit more expected given the epilepsy). It really is suggestive, tho, of how entrenched pharmaceuticals are in our lives when the non-prescribed people arouse curiosity.
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I dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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Mine always tell me to exercise and lose weight, and I demand better drugs instead.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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You are such a Boomer wannabe.Wolter wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:32pmMine always tell me to exercise and lose weight, and I demand better drugs instead.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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That is so punk rawk!Wolter wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:32pmMine always tell me to exercise and lose weight, and I demand better drugs instead.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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That is low, Doc.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:44pmYou are such a Boomer wannabe.Wolter wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:32pmMine always tell me to exercise and lose weight, and I demand better drugs instead.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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This year has been a year of medical issues for me. I don't want to go into, but I'm happy to report I'm healthy. Yay. But throughout this year, I've been to lots of different doctors and not one single one hasn't either pushed a pill or a test on me that I didn't need. The minute I mentioned lifestyle change and diet as a way of curing things? Laugh me right out the door. It's sickening. The last doctor I saw got so angry at me for refusing to take a medication I didn't really need that had such bad side effects only to "prevent" something I may not even get. And don't even get me started on the roundabout way he arrived at his decision. I won't be going back to him, even if I need to.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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Yeah. I really don't like the way they seem to be in collusion with the drug companies to push stuff, even after drug reps stopped being allowed to shower them with gifts. That being said, if it weren't for cymbalta, I'd probably be curled up in a fetal position right now not having left the house for weeks. It has helped my anxiety ever since I had PPD, and helped me get through Scott's cancer and my dad's death like a reasonable human being. However, it's not a cure all and it's not for everyone.Mimi wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 12:31pmThis year has been a year of medical issues for me. I don't want to go into, but I'm happy to report I'm healthy. Yay. But throughout this year, I've been to lots of different doctors and not one single one hasn't either pushed a pill or a test on me that I didn't need. The minute I mentioned lifestyle change and diet as a way of curing things? Laugh me right out the door. It's sickening. The last doctor I saw got so angry at me for refusing to take a medication I didn't really need that had such bad side effects only to "prevent" something I may not even get. And don't even get me started on the roundabout way he arrived at his decision. I won't be going back to him, even if I need to.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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There are some things where medication is absolutely necessary.JennyB wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 1:03pmYeah. I really don't like the way they seem to be in collusion with the drug companies to push stuff, even after drug reps stopped being allowed to shower them with gifts. That being said, if it weren't for cymbalta, I'd probably be curled up in a fetal position right now not having left the house for weeks. It has helped my anxiety ever since I had PPD, and helped me get through Scott's cancer and my dad's death like a reasonable human being. However, it's not a cure all and it's not for everyone.Mimi wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 12:31pmThis year has been a year of medical issues for me. I don't want to go into, but I'm happy to report I'm healthy. Yay. But throughout this year, I've been to lots of different doctors and not one single one hasn't either pushed a pill or a test on me that I didn't need. The minute I mentioned lifestyle change and diet as a way of curing things? Laugh me right out the door. It's sickening. The last doctor I saw got so angry at me for refusing to take a medication I didn't really need that had such bad side effects only to "prevent" something I may not even get. And don't even get me started on the roundabout way he arrived at his decision. I won't be going back to him, even if I need to.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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For sure - andI didn't intend for my comment to be an argument. I agree with you - they push meds too much.Mimi wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 1:10pmThere are some things where medication is absolutely necessary.JennyB wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 1:03pmYeah. I really don't like the way they seem to be in collusion with the drug companies to push stuff, even after drug reps stopped being allowed to shower them with gifts. That being said, if it weren't for cymbalta, I'd probably be curled up in a fetal position right now not having left the house for weeks. It has helped my anxiety ever since I had PPD, and helped me get through Scott's cancer and my dad's death like a reasonable human being. However, it's not a cure all and it's not for everyone.Mimi wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 12:31pmThis year has been a year of medical issues for me. I don't want to go into, but I'm happy to report I'm healthy. Yay. But throughout this year, I've been to lots of different doctors and not one single one hasn't either pushed a pill or a test on me that I didn't need. The minute I mentioned lifestyle change and diet as a way of curing things? Laugh me right out the door. It's sickening. The last doctor I saw got so angry at me for refusing to take a medication I didn't really need that had such bad side effects only to "prevent" something I may not even get. And don't even get me started on the roundabout way he arrived at his decision. I won't be going back to him, even if I need to.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pmI dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
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Oh, I didn't take it that way. It made me wonder if I was coming across as judgmental. No probs. I'm easy like Sunday morning. lolJennyB wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 1:15pmFor sure - andI didn't intend for my comment to be an argument. I agree with you - they push meds too much.Mimi wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 1:10pmThere are some things where medication is absolutely necessary.JennyB wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 1:03pmYeah. I really don't like the way they seem to be in collusion with the drug companies to push stuff, even after drug reps stopped being allowed to shower them with gifts. That being said, if it weren't for cymbalta, I'd probably be curled up in a fetal position right now not having left the house for weeks. It has helped my anxiety ever since I had PPD, and helped me get through Scott's cancer and my dad's death like a reasonable human being. However, it's not a cure all and it's not for everyone.Mimi wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 12:31pmThis year has been a year of medical issues for me. I don't want to go into, but I'm happy to report I'm healthy. Yay. But throughout this year, I've been to lots of different doctors and not one single one hasn't either pushed a pill or a test on me that I didn't need. The minute I mentioned lifestyle change and diet as a way of curing things? Laugh me right out the door. It's sickening. The last doctor I saw got so angry at me for refusing to take a medication I didn't really need that had such bad side effects only to "prevent" something I may not even get. And don't even get me started on the roundabout way he arrived at his decision. I won't be going back to him, even if I need to.revbob wrote: ↑06 Dec 2017, 9:13pm
I dont think there's been a single time in the past 5-10 years when a doctor hasnt openly advocated for medication. And Im pretty healthy, could be better but nothing that losing a few lbs and exercising a bit more couldnt tske care of. The odd thing is they dont seem to advocate for that.
My brother was on Lexapro for years, so I understand.
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My first neurologist prescribed an older type of antipsychotic for my epilepsy that turned me into a zombie. When I told him I couldn't take it, that my quality of life absolutely sucked, he said he would no longer treat me. I was much better off just dealing with the occasional seizure, so fine, I did that. For some reason, a couple years later, I went to Saskatoon's other neurologist, who also insisted I had to go on pharmaceuticals otherwise I would die. But he didn't want to tell me anything about the drug because, he said, patients look up the side effects to find out the negatives. And this is a bad thing? Apparently. I didn't bother with him either.
When we moved to Ottawa and bought our house, I couldn't get attached to the mortgage insurance because of my epilepsy—high risk of sudden death, the insurers say—so we decided I'd try a new neurologist. This guy is great. Super fantastic. Wants my participation, encourages me doing research, all that (much younger guy than the other two). We agreed that I'd try a somewhat newer drug, but it had a side effect of causing depression in something like 8% of users. And I ended up in that 8%. Terrifying how quickly I collapsed. And amazing how quickly I recovered once I started going off that dope. He and I talked about another medication, one that has the advantage of also being a mood stabilizer, which would help my on-again-off-again issues with depression, but also may cause a fatal rash. I told him I felt gun shy after the first two medications and he supported that, saying that he didn't think I was in any danger by going drug-free (the most I do is take mega doses of omega-3, which has some anecdotal evidence in alleviating symptoms). The thing is that if this guy now told me that he thinks it would be a good idea if I went on some drug or other, I'm more inclined to listen because he's treated me like an interested party in my own health. Basic fucking respect for the patient's interests.
When we moved to Ottawa and bought our house, I couldn't get attached to the mortgage insurance because of my epilepsy—high risk of sudden death, the insurers say—so we decided I'd try a new neurologist. This guy is great. Super fantastic. Wants my participation, encourages me doing research, all that (much younger guy than the other two). We agreed that I'd try a somewhat newer drug, but it had a side effect of causing depression in something like 8% of users. And I ended up in that 8%. Terrifying how quickly I collapsed. And amazing how quickly I recovered once I started going off that dope. He and I talked about another medication, one that has the advantage of also being a mood stabilizer, which would help my on-again-off-again issues with depression, but also may cause a fatal rash. I told him I felt gun shy after the first two medications and he supported that, saying that he didn't think I was in any danger by going drug-free (the most I do is take mega doses of omega-3, which has some anecdotal evidence in alleviating symptoms). The thing is that if this guy now told me that he thinks it would be a good idea if I went on some drug or other, I'm more inclined to listen because he's treated me like an interested party in my own health. Basic fucking respect for the patient's interests.
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Sounds like a keeper.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑07 Dec 2017, 1:25pmMy first neurologist prescribed an older type of antipsychotic for my epilepsy that turned me into a zombie. When I told him I couldn't take it, that my quality of life absolutely sucked, he said he would no longer treat me. I was much better off just dealing with the occasional seizure, so fine, I did that. For some reason, a couple years later, I went to Saskatoon's other neurologist, who also insisted I had to go on pharmaceuticals otherwise I would die. But he didn't want to tell me anything about the drug because, he said, patients look up the side effects to find out the negatives. And this is a bad thing? Apparently. I didn't bother with him either.
When we moved to Ottawa and bought our house, I couldn't get attached to the mortgage insurance because of my epilepsy—high risk of sudden death, the insurers say—so we decided I'd try a new neurologist. This guy is great. Super fantastic. Wants my participation, encourages me doing research, all that (much younger guy than the other two). We agreed that I'd try a somewhat newer drug, but it had a side effect of causing depression in something like 8% of users. And I ended up in that 8%. Terrifying how quickly I collapsed. And amazing how quickly I recovered once I started going off that dope. He and I talked about another medication, one that has the advantage of also being a mood stabilizer, which would help my on-again-off-again issues with depression, but also may cause a fatal rash. I told him I felt gun shy after the first two medications and he supported that, saying that he didn't think I was in any danger by going drug-free (the most I do is take mega doses of omega-3, which has some anecdotal evidence in alleviating symptoms). The thing is that if this guy now told me that he thinks it would be a good idea if I went on some drug or other, I'm more inclined to listen because he's treated me like an interested party in my own health. Basic fucking respect for the patient's interests.
A big red flag for any doctor who doesn't encourage his patients to research a drug they're pushing.
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What do you pay these doctors for?