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Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 1:49pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:46pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 9:24am
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This is like a comedian fucking up a joke. The first two panels are the set-up and the last panel the punchline, but they got their notecards mixed up with another joke.
I dunno, it makes sense to me. Clearly there's some fucking dinosaurs out there, and Mark feels like he needs to remind his young ward not to get eaten, but he really can't contain his pleasure at the thought.
Living on the Left Coast has really confused you about reality.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 1:51pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:49pm
Well, I've finished my Cerebus re-read and decided to re-read Uncanny X-Men, adjectiveless X-Men, New Mutants (dropping off after Weezy comes on board), Excalibur (dropping off when Ellis comes on board) from Claremont to current. Wish me luck.
Your challenge is to identify the exact moment the X titles became a complete clusterfuck.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 2:28pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:51pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:49pm
Well, I've finished my Cerebus re-read and decided to re-read Uncanny X-Men, adjectiveless X-Men, New Mutants (dropping off after Weezy comes on board), Excalibur (dropping off when Ellis comes on board) from Claremont to current. Wish me luck.
Your challenge is to identify the exact moment the X titles became a complete clusterfuck.
Inferno. Still like it though.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 2:30pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 2:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:51pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:49pm
Well, I've finished my Cerebus re-read and decided to re-read Uncanny X-Men, adjectiveless X-Men, New Mutants (dropping off after Weezy comes on board), Excalibur (dropping off when Ellis comes on board) from Claremont to current. Wish me luck.
Your challenge is to identify the exact moment the X titles became a complete clusterfuck.
Inferno. Still like it though.
I just read the Wikipedia summary. That's like a distillation of why I abandoned the X-Men (mostly—I did like Grant Morrison's run).

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 2:33pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 2:30pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 2:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:51pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:49pm
Well, I've finished my Cerebus re-read and decided to re-read Uncanny X-Men, adjectiveless X-Men, New Mutants (dropping off after Weezy comes on board), Excalibur (dropping off when Ellis comes on board) from Claremont to current. Wish me luck.
Your challenge is to identify the exact moment the X titles became a complete clusterfuck.
Inferno. Still like it though.
I just read the Wikipedia summary. That's like a distillation of why I abandoned the X-Men (mostly—I did like Grant Morrison's run).
I didn't care much for Morrison on first read but I may change my mind this time. I really like a large chunk from House of M onward, mostly because it pulled off the impossible task of making Cyclops interesting.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 2:35pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 2:33pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 2:30pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 2:28pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:51pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 1:49pm
Well, I've finished my Cerebus re-read and decided to re-read Uncanny X-Men, adjectiveless X-Men, New Mutants (dropping off after Weezy comes on board), Excalibur (dropping off when Ellis comes on board) from Claremont to current. Wish me luck.
Your challenge is to identify the exact moment the X titles became a complete clusterfuck.
Inferno. Still like it though.
I just read the Wikipedia summary. That's like a distillation of why I abandoned the X-Men (mostly—I did like Grant Morrison's run).
I didn't care much for Morrison on first read but I may change my mind this time. I really like a large chunk from House of M onward, mostly because it pulled off the impossible task of making Cyclops interesting.
So much of my snarky conception of X-Men is driven from the 90s cartoon. All Cyclops ever does is shout, "Jean!" and Wolverine calls everyone a dirtbag. That and my favourite line: "I love you, Cyclops." That's pretty much it.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 7:24pm
by Wolter
I love Inferno and I loved the Morrison run. I bailed for a decade in the early 90s at the proper point: Trevor Fucking Fitzroy.

Cyclops is a LOT better if you ignore the 90s cartoon 100%. Hes the fucking worst in that.

EDIT: also love Weezy’s New Mutants. Brett Blevins makes me happy.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 9:33pm
by Kory
Wolter wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 7:24pm
I love Inferno and I loved the Morrison run. I bailed for a decade in the early 90s at the proper point: Trevor Fucking Fitzroy.

Cyclops is a LOT better if you ignore the 90s cartoon 100%. Hes the fucking worst in that.

EDIT: also love Weezy’s New Mutants. Brett Blevins makes me happy.
I might the NM back 50 another spin. I don't have easy access to them, so my view is tainted by my cynical teenage years reading that one where Sam tries to leather it up for Lila Cheney, and then anything with fuckin Birdbrain.

I agree about Fitzroy.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 9:44pm
by Wolter
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 9:33pm
Wolter wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 7:24pm
I love Inferno and I loved the Morrison run. I bailed for a decade in the early 90s at the proper point: Trevor Fucking Fitzroy.

Cyclops is a LOT better if you ignore the 90s cartoon 100%. Hes the fucking worst in that.

EDIT: also love Weezy’s New Mutants. Brett Blevins makes me happy.
I might the NM back 50 another spin. I don't have easy access to them, so my view is tainted by my cynical teenage years reading that one where Sam tries to leather it up for Lila Cheney, and then anything with fuckin Birdbrain.

I agree about Fitzroy.
Birdbrain isn’t a high point, but Sam leathering it up for Lila is so damn funny.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 9:59pm
by revbob
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 9:24am
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This is like a comedian fucking up a joke. The first two panels are the set-up and the last panel the punchline, but they got their notecards mixed up with another joke.
I think Mark Trail is operating on a much higher level.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 10:04pm
by Dr. Medulla
revbob wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 9:59pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 9:24am
Image
This is like a comedian fucking up a joke. The first two panels are the set-up and the last panel the punchline, but they got their notecards mixed up with another joke.
I think Mark Trail is operating on a much higher level.
It's hard not to think that it's avant garde infiltration into mass circulation.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 10:05pm
by Kory
Wolter wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 9:44pm
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 9:33pm
Wolter wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 7:24pm
I love Inferno and I loved the Morrison run. I bailed for a decade in the early 90s at the proper point: Trevor Fucking Fitzroy.

Cyclops is a LOT better if you ignore the 90s cartoon 100%. Hes the fucking worst in that.

EDIT: also love Weezy’s New Mutants. Brett Blevins makes me happy.
I might the NM back 50 another spin. I don't have easy access to them, so my view is tainted by my cynical teenage years reading that one where Sam tries to leather it up for Lila Cheney, and then anything with fuckin Birdbrain.

I agree about Fitzroy.
Birdbrain isn’t a high point, but Sam leathering it up for Lila is so damn funny.
I think at the time (I must have been 11 or 12) I was angry that he hadn't grown a spine yet, but I think I might enjoy it more now. I wish they were collected in book form like the Claremont stuff.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 23 Jan 2018, 10:27pm
by Kory
The thing I really dig about Claremont's run is that it's so long. Allowing a spandex team to grow and develop under one writer's vision for 17 years is super rare if not unheard of, especially at the time.

Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 24 Jan 2018, 11:57pm
by Inder
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Re: Flex and Wolter's Den of Nerdly Awesomeness

Posted: 25 Jan 2018, 12:07am
by Wolter
Kory wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 10:27pm
The thing I really dig about Claremont's run is that it's so long. Allowing a spandex team to grow and develop under one writer's vision for 17 years is super rare if not unheard of, especially at the time.
I agree. It’s cool to see him have the time to seed things in and let them breathe.