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JennyB wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 10:26am
Inder wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:24am
Kory wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:01am
Inder wrote:
03 Jan 2018, 9:02pm
The UK's in a pretty bad place if you're looking to move there, to be honest. The immigration/visa situation is very uncertain as Brexit lurches from calamity to calamity. Employers are understandably skittish about hiring foreigners, given no one knows what the government is going to do next — even if you have already have a job offer, it'll likely be on a maximum three-year Tier 2 visa, with no guarantees you'll be able to renew it to stay on/hit the five years for residency (provided they don't end up changing that as well).

All that, plus the economy's headed down the shitter, inflation is rising, etc. Plus stuff like this —
UK faces two decades of no earnings growth and more austerity, says IFS. It's impossible to buy a house in London unless you have a spare £600k lying around or think it'd be a good idea to sink £300k in a fixer-upper in a shit part of a town. Rent for one-bed in the city's at a £900 minimum, or £700 for a flatshare. It'll be cheaper elsewhere, but you might have a tougher time finding a job.

I love it, but I wouldn't recommend anyone move here without a really firm grasp of the risks and sacrifices involved.
Shit. Does this ring true for the other Brits here?
Didn't mean to be too doom and gloom here — I've been doing my visa stuff again and all this has been rattling around my head lately. The government's doing everything it can to obstruct immigration and it's such a fucking hassle.
Would it be even harder for Kory than you since you are Canadian and thereby a citizen of her majesty's commonwealth, or am I totally off base?
Canadians don't receive any special treatment, beyond being able to travel as tourists without a visa and permission to stay for six months. 😩

There is also the ancestry route, if Kory or his missus have British roots — you can apply for a UK passport and pitch up with relative ease, provided you have the documentation.

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Inder wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 10:46am
JennyB wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 10:26am
Inder wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:24am
Kory wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:01am
Inder wrote:
03 Jan 2018, 9:02pm
The UK's in a pretty bad place if you're looking to move there, to be honest. The immigration/visa situation is very uncertain as Brexit lurches from calamity to calamity. Employers are understandably skittish about hiring foreigners, given no one knows what the government is going to do next — even if you have already have a job offer, it'll likely be on a maximum three-year Tier 2 visa, with no guarantees you'll be able to renew it to stay on/hit the five years for residency (provided they don't end up changing that as well).

All that, plus the economy's headed down the shitter, inflation is rising, etc. Plus stuff like this —
UK faces two decades of no earnings growth and more austerity, says IFS. It's impossible to buy a house in London unless you have a spare £600k lying around or think it'd be a good idea to sink £300k in a fixer-upper in a shit part of a town. Rent for one-bed in the city's at a £900 minimum, or £700 for a flatshare. It'll be cheaper elsewhere, but you might have a tougher time finding a job.

I love it, but I wouldn't recommend anyone move here without a really firm grasp of the risks and sacrifices involved.
Shit. Does this ring true for the other Brits here?
Didn't mean to be too doom and gloom here — I've been doing my visa stuff again and all this has been rattling around my head lately. The government's doing everything it can to obstruct immigration and it's such a fucking hassle.
Would it be even harder for Kory than you since you are Canadian and thereby a citizen of her majesty's commonwealth, or am I totally off base?
Canadians don't receive any special treatment, beyond being able to travel as tourists without a visa and permission to stay for six months. 😩

There is also the ancestry route, if Kory or his missus have British roots — you can apply for a UK passport and pitch up with relative ease, provided you have the documentation.
Interesting - thanks!
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As an occasional visitor to the UK, Leeds would be one of my favorite destinations. Lovely surrounding countryside, plenty of stuff to do. Birmingham was a total kip when I first went there but seems rather nice and interesting now. Am always pleasantly surprised by how cheap basic things are when I visit.

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I'm from Leeds and live in Leeds. Generally compared to the shitholes around the world that I have visited it is great and the people are friendly too.

There is no class structure here - you are either from Yorkshire or not.

It is very cosmopolitan and I saw Kirk Brandon play the other week.

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Kory wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:41am
Inder wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:24am
Kory wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:01am
Inder wrote:
03 Jan 2018, 9:02pm
The UK's in a pretty bad place if you're looking to move there, to be honest. The immigration/visa situation is very uncertain as Brexit lurches from calamity to calamity. Employers are understandably skittish about hiring foreigners, given no one knows what the government is going to do next — even if you have already have a job offer, it'll likely be on a maximum three-year Tier 2 visa, with no guarantees you'll be able to renew it to stay on/hit the five years for residency (provided they don't end up changing that as well).

All that, plus the economy's headed down the shitter, inflation is rising, etc. Plus stuff like this —
UK faces two decades of no earnings growth and more austerity, says IFS. It's impossible to buy a house in London unless you have a spare £600k lying around or think it'd be a good idea to sink £300k in a fixer-upper in a shit part of a town. Rent for one-bed in the city's at a £900 minimum, or £700 for a flatshare. It'll be cheaper elsewhere, but you might have a tougher time finding a job.

I love it, but I wouldn't recommend anyone move here without a really firm grasp of the risks and sacrifices involved.
Shit. Does this ring true for the other Brits here?
Didn't mean to be too doom and gloom here — I've been doing my visa stuff again and all this has been rattling around my head lately. The government's doing everything it can to obstruct immigration and it's such a fucking hassle.
I'm looking for as much info as possible, negative and positive. I need to be as prepared as possible when it comes time, so I appreciate anything you can provide.
The reason any of this is a possibility is that my wife is looking for work at another ballet company in one of those three cities (among about 20 others). I know moving to other countries is a very common thing in the ballet world but I don't know how Brexit might affect that, or whether her visa would extend to me since we're married (I'm still in the early stages of research), but my biggest concern is cost of living and whether I'd be living paycheck to paycheck or not.
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I’m biased but central London is one of the best places in the world IF you don’t have children and can afford to be there. If you are going to behind a hedge in the suburbs you are better off somewhere else.
Ps I have a UK passport you can have 😊

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Just have Heston hide you in his attic.
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What other countries is she looking at?
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eumaas wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 2:38pm
Just have Heston hide you in his attic.
I've been trying to think of some advice to offer but the only thing I can think of is don't do it. Anyway, Kory would have the language barrier problem if he moved in around here.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Kory wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 1:50pm
Kory wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:41am
Inder wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:24am
Kory wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:01am
Inder wrote:
03 Jan 2018, 9:02pm
The UK's in a pretty bad place if you're looking to move there, to be honest. The immigration/visa situation is very uncertain as Brexit lurches from calamity to calamity. Employers are understandably skittish about hiring foreigners, given no one knows what the government is going to do next — even if you have already have a job offer, it'll likely be on a maximum three-year Tier 2 visa, with no guarantees you'll be able to renew it to stay on/hit the five years for residency (provided they don't end up changing that as well).

All that, plus the economy's headed down the shitter, inflation is rising, etc. Plus stuff like this —
UK faces two decades of no earnings growth and more austerity, says IFS. It's impossible to buy a house in London unless you have a spare £600k lying around or think it'd be a good idea to sink £300k in a fixer-upper in a shit part of a town. Rent for one-bed in the city's at a £900 minimum, or £700 for a flatshare. It'll be cheaper elsewhere, but you might have a tougher time finding a job.

I love it, but I wouldn't recommend anyone move here without a really firm grasp of the risks and sacrifices involved.
Shit. Does this ring true for the other Brits here?
Didn't mean to be too doom and gloom here — I've been doing my visa stuff again and all this has been rattling around my head lately. The government's doing everything it can to obstruct immigration and it's such a fucking hassle.
I'm looking for as much info as possible, negative and positive. I need to be as prepared as possible when it comes time, so I appreciate anything you can provide.
The reason any of this is a possibility is that my wife is looking for work at another ballet company in one of those three cities (among about 20 others). I know moving to other countries is a very common thing in the ballet world but I don't know how Brexit might affect that, or whether her visa would extend to me since we're married (I'm still in the early stages of research), but my biggest concern is cost of living and whether I'd be living paycheck to paycheck or not.
Does she realize Spandau Ballet is a band, not a British ballet company?
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:17pm
Does she realize Spandau Ballet is a band, not a British ballet company?
50%: :roll:
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:23pm
Heston wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:17pm
Does she realize Spandau Ballet is a band, not a British ballet company?
50%: :roll:
50%: :lol:
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eumaas wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:37pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:23pm
Heston wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:17pm
Does she realize Spandau Ballet is a band, not a British ballet company?
50%: :roll:
50%: :lol:
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Heston wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 3:15pm
eumaas wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 2:38pm
Just have Heston hide you in his attic.
I've been trying to think of some advice to offer but the only thing I can think of is don't do it. Anyway, Kory would have the language barrier problem if he moved in around here.
Is it because of the stuff Inder said, mainly?

Also, I think I'd be fine with the language, I watch plenty of BBC. I can tell people to leave it out.
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JennyB wrote:
04 Jan 2018, 2:58pm
What other countries is she looking at?
Canada and Australia, plus a clutch of US cities (some very desirable, some hellish). I was actually going to ask you if you know much about Kansas City, actually.
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