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Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 6:51pm
by revbob
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 5:46pm
revbob wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 5:12pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 4:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 3:32pm
An admission: The Band do nothing for me at all.
I agree with this post.
Do they do anything for anyone other than bore the hell out of everyone. They could give the Grateful Dead a run for the money for the most boring hippie band.
Hippie band? They were tight and compact ensemble players, serving the song, and almost never took solos. And plus - Levon Helm.
I wont say they werent talented musicians but I stand by my previous categorization of both boring and hippie. Now hippie need not be a bad thing but when coupled with boring its pretty awful.
Exhibit A:

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 6:54pm
by Heston

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 7:09pm
by Inder
revbob wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:51pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 5:46pm
revbob wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 5:12pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 4:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 3:32pm
An admission: The Band do nothing for me at all.
I agree with this post.
Do they do anything for anyone other than bore the hell out of everyone. They could give the Grateful Dead a run for the money for the most boring hippie band.
Hippie band? They were tight and compact ensemble players, serving the song, and almost never took solos. And plus - Levon Helm.
I wont say they werent talented musicians but I stand by my previous categorization of both boring and hippie. Now hippie need not be a bad thing but when coupled with boring its pretty awful.
Exhibit A:
I don't go out of my way to put them on, but they could also be pretty excellent.



Plus, you know, they were the fuckin' 'Hawks. 😎😎😎


Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 7:11pm
by muppet hi fi
revbob wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:51pm
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 5:46pm
revbob wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 5:12pm
JennyB wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 4:56pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 3:32pm
An admission: The Band do nothing for me at all.
I agree with this post.
Do they do anything for anyone other than bore the hell out of everyone. They could give the Grateful Dead a run for the money for the most boring hippie band.
Hippie band? They were tight and compact ensemble players, serving the song, and almost never took solos. And plus - Levon Helm.
I wont say they werent talented musicians but I stand by my previous categorization of both boring and hippie. Now hippie need not be a bad thing but when coupled with boring its pretty awful.
Exhibit A:
I've got pretty catholic musical tastes and like to think I only dig the best of any sort of genre/sub-genre, so whatever :approve: ... I'm assuming you don't dig Dylan, but if you do, check out something from the live '74 album with the Band 'Before the Flood' - they rock and rave in an, admittedly, uncharacteristically rowdy manner.

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 7:26pm
by revbob
muppet hi fi wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 7:11pm
band.
...
I've got pretty catholic musical tastes and like to think I only dig the best of any sort of genre/sub-genre, so whatever :approve: ... I'm assuming you don't dig Dylan, but if you do, check out something from the live '74 album with the Band 'Before the Flood' - they rock and rave in an, admittedly, uncharacteristically rowdy manner.
I actually like Bob Dylan quite a bit. Admittidly, Ive never done a deep dive but Ive generally always liked whatever I've heard. I like a lot of folk music actually.

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 7:50pm
by Dr. Medulla
revbob: America's Greatest Indigo Girls Fan™

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 10:54pm
by revbob
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 7:50pm
revbob: America's Greatest Indigo Girls Fan™
Aww hells yeah!! Ive got seasons tickets to the Lilith Fair

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 5:50am
by Silent Majority
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:43pm
matedog wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:28pm
A few weeks ago, I gave a lecture on the culture wars in the US, and finished with a couple music-related examples: the PMRC/Jello Biafra obscenity trial; and 2 Live Crew's obscenity bust. Which meant that I used the phrases "We Want Some Pussy" and "Me So Horny" during the lecture. All the more goofy when delivered by a balding white guy in his late 40s. I paused to let the students know that at no other point in their post-secondary eduction would those phrases show up in a lecture. It got a laugh and then I could contextualize the whole thing.
Do you record these lectures? Could I get one?

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 6:12am
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 5:50am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:43pm
matedog wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:28pm
A few weeks ago, I gave a lecture on the culture wars in the US, and finished with a couple music-related examples: the PMRC/Jello Biafra obscenity trial; and 2 Live Crew's obscenity bust. Which meant that I used the phrases "We Want Some Pussy" and "Me So Horny" during the lecture. All the more goofy when delivered by a balding white guy in his late 40s. I paused to let the students know that at no other point in their post-secondary eduction would those phrases show up in a lecture. It got a laugh and then I could contextualize the whole thing.
Do you record these lectures? Could I get one?
Can't bear to hear the sound of my own voice so I don't record myself, but some students record the lectures rather than take notes. Which is a super lousy way of prepping for exams, I imagine.

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 10:03am
by matedog
Dr. Medulla wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 6:12am
Silent Majority wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 5:50am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:43pm
matedog wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 6:28pm
A few weeks ago, I gave a lecture on the culture wars in the US, and finished with a couple music-related examples: the PMRC/Jello Biafra obscenity trial; and 2 Live Crew's obscenity bust. Which meant that I used the phrases "We Want Some Pussy" and "Me So Horny" during the lecture. All the more goofy when delivered by a balding white guy in his late 40s. I paused to let the students know that at no other point in their post-secondary eduction would those phrases show up in a lecture. It got a laugh and then I could contextualize the whole thing.
Do you record these lectures? Could I get one?
Can't bear to hear the sound of my own voice so I don't record myself, but some students record the lectures rather than take notes. Which is a super lousy way of prepping for exams, I imagine.
I've heard your accent is excessively Canadian.

This whole debate is a drag, but your vulgarities reminded me of how straight faced Anderson Cooper was at this moment:

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 10:36am
by Dr. Medulla
matedog wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 10:03am
I've heard your accent is excessively Canadian.
Bah. Wolter's a marble-mouthed goombah. I'd don't sound Atlantic Canadian a-boot, but, yeah, I'm pretty vulgar Western Canadian. I can slip into Bob and Doug McKenzie without much trying.
This whole debate is a drag, but your vulgarities reminded me of how straight faced Anderson Cooper was at this moment:
The boss was stunned that I'd say that in a class. But, I mean, how can I talk about the cultural wars about vulgarity and community standards and all that if I don't include the names of their supposedly offensive songs? When I talked about the Frankenchrist trial, I told them that I wasn't gonna show a picture of the poster and that if they want to, Google after class but not in class cos their neighbours might not want to see it. It's pretty fuckin' gross, if you ask me. Figuring out what I can say and not was itself a bit of the essence of the culture wars, tradition and community versus contemporary and the individual.

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 11:21am
by matedog
Dr. Medulla wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 10:36am
matedog wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 10:03am
I've heard your accent is excessively Canadian.
Bah. Wolter's a marble-mouthed goombah. I'd don't sound Atlantic Canadian a-boot, but, yeah, I'm pretty vulgar Western Canadian. I can slip into Bob and Doug McKenzie without much trying.
This whole debate is a drag, but your vulgarities reminded me of how straight faced Anderson Cooper was at this moment:
The boss was stunned that I'd say that in a class. But, I mean, how can I talk about the cultural wars about vulgarity and community standards and all that if I don't include the names of their supposedly offensive songs? When I talked about the Frankenchrist trial, I told them that I wasn't gonna show a picture of the poster and that if they want to, Google after class but not in class cos their neighbours might not want to see it. It's pretty fuckin' gross, if you ask me. Figuring out what I can say and not was itself a bit of the essence of the culture wars, tradition and community versus contemporary and the individual.
Does that mean you have a pass to say the n-word? Ah, the white man's dream.

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 11:55am
by Dr. Medulla
matedog wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 11:21am
Does that mean you have a pass to say the n-word? Ah, the white man's dream.
Talking about NWA I said niggaz, if that counts. During my rock seminar, when we talked about hip hop and race, it might have come up—one essay I've used has the word in its title, I think—but certainly not gratuitously.

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 1:09pm
by Silent Majority
Dr. Medulla wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 11:55am
matedog wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 11:21am
Does that mean you have a pass to say the n-word? Ah, the white man's dream.
Talking about NWA I said niggaz, if that counts. During my rock seminar, when we talked about hip hop and race, it might have come up—one essay I've used has the word in its title, I think—but certainly not gratuitously.
When I did a podcast on Mississippi Burning, I had more than one opportunity to use the n word in reasonable context, mocking the language of the oppressor. But I noticed I was looking forward to being able to do so, it'd give me a "I'm being a naughty boy" thrill so I decided against it.

Re: Inder's Been Banned

Posted: 03 Apr 2018, 2:07pm
by Dr. Medulla
Silent Majority wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 1:09pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 11:55am
matedog wrote:
03 Apr 2018, 11:21am
Does that mean you have a pass to say the n-word? Ah, the white man's dream.
Talking about NWA I said niggaz, if that counts. During my rock seminar, when we talked about hip hop and race, it might have come up—one essay I've used has the word in its title, I think—but certainly not gratuitously.
When I did a podcast on Mississippi Burning, I had more than one opportunity to use the n word in reasonable context, mocking the language of the oppressor. But I noticed I was looking forward to being able to do so, it'd give me a "I'm being a naughty boy" thrill so I decided against it.
Using impolite language, if that's the best description for it, in lectures is something I'm really wary of. I know that I can justify my usage, but I don't see any value in shocking students on those grounds and I don't want to get derailed justifying my word choice. Still, when I explained how Nixon had committed treason to win the '68 election, and we know this because LBJ was bugging his phone but couldn't expose him because, well, he was bugging a presidential candidate's phone for no good reason, I said it was two assholes being true to their character. A word milder than asshole doesn't cut it.