If Music Could Talk

Wolter wrote:You forget that the Ramones have been marketed to high heaven as T-shirt fodder for a while now. I would argue that their name is more sellable in 2016 than the Clash, even if that may not have always been the case, and may not be the case in the future.

Also, I have heard "I Wanna Be Sedated" and "Blitzkrieg Bop" at least as often on the radio in the past 20 years as any given Clash song.

Very true I've seen people who can only name like 1 or 2 songs with a Ramones shirt. In addition to the albums I have a shirt, hat, button, coffee mug and keychain. Their "brand"marketing rivals that of the Misfits, not in volume maybe but in what you can get with a Ramones logo.

Oh and holy shit I just saw someone trying to sell a Misfits shirt for 17000.00

Kory wrote:
Patches, badges, and stickers, too.

"Oh my!"

BR16ADE_R055E wrote:

Kory wrote:
Patches, badges, and stickers, too.

"Oh my!"

I was hoping that would come through.

Flex wrote:

Wolter wrote:You forget that the Ramones have been marketed to high heaven as T-shirt fodder for a while now. I would argue that their name is more sellable in 2016 than the Clash, even if that may not have always been the case, and may not be the case in the future.

Also, I have heard "I Wanna Be Sedated" and "Blitzkrieg Bop" at least as often on the radio in the past 20 years as any given Clash song.

Side note: Ramones t-shirts tend to be really good. The album covers and their logo translate super well to the shirt format.

The Ramones always sold more T-shirts than albums. That's a fact right from the early days of the group. Blitzkrieg Bop is being used by AO to sell washing machines/Fridges etc. I don't think any of the original punk bands have much in the way of "punk cred" nowadays. I for one don't blame them but I still find it sad the music is being used and the guys are all now gone and not seeing the benefit.

Marky Dread wrote:

Flex wrote:

Wolter wrote:You forget that the Ramones have been marketed to high heaven as T-shirt fodder for a while now. I would argue that their name is more sellable in 2016 than the Clash, even if that may not have always been the case, and may not be the case in the future.

Also, I have heard "I Wanna Be Sedated" and "Blitzkrieg Bop" at least as often on the radio in the past 20 years as any given Clash song.

Side note: Ramones t-shirts tend to be really good. The album covers and their logo translate super well to the shirt format.

The Ramones always sold more T-shirts than albums. That's a fact right from the early days of the group. Blitzkrieg Bop is being used by AO to sell washing machines/Fridges etc. I don't think any of the original punk bands have much in the way of "punk cred" nowadays. I for one don't blame them but I still find it sad the music is being used and the guys are all now gone and not seeing the benefit.

Adverts, maybe?

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Flex wrote:

Wolter wrote:You forget that the Ramones have been marketed to high heaven as T-shirt fodder for a while now. I would argue that their name is more sellable in 2016 than the Clash, even if that may not have always been the case, and may not be the case in the future.

Also, I have heard "I Wanna Be Sedated" and "Blitzkrieg Bop" at least as often on the radio in the past 20 years as any given Clash song.

Side note: Ramones t-shirts tend to be really good. The album covers and their logo translate super well to the shirt format.

The Ramones always sold more T-shirts than albums. That's a fact right from the early days of the group. Blitzkrieg Bop is being used by AO to sell washing machines/Fridges etc. I don't think any of the original punk bands have much in the way of "punk cred" nowadays. I for one don't blame them but I still find it sad the music is being used and the guys are all now gone and not seeing the benefit.

Adverts, maybe?

The Adverts? I don't think Vision Express or Specsavers will be using "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" any day soon.

Cock Sparrer! They got tougher as they went along. Punk as fuck, imho.

Addendum: Acknowledgement that this whole exercise is très silly.

Flex wrote:Cock Sparrer! They got tougher as they went along. Punk as fuck, imho.

Addendum: Acknowledgement that this whole exercise is très silly.

Yeah they probably did to be fair. But they had very little success. The big punk bands all had some chart success and saw it as an evil necessity to get the message across to a wider audience.

Marky Dread wrote:But they had very little success.

I rest my case!

Flex wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:But they had very little success.

I rest my case!

Nah I'm glad I got to see bands like the Ruts/SLF/The Skids/U.K. Subs/X-ray Spex on the tv and kinda sad that I didn't see Cock Sparrer as so many bands owed them.

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Flex wrote:

Wolter wrote:You forget that the Ramones have been marketed to high heaven as T-shirt fodder for a while now. I would argue that their name is more sellable in 2016 than the Clash, even if that may not have always been the case, and may not be the case in the future.

Also, I have heard "I Wanna Be Sedated" and "Blitzkrieg Bop" at least as often on the radio in the past 20 years as any given Clash song.

Side note: Ramones t-shirts tend to be really good. The album covers and their logo translate super well to the shirt format.

The Ramones always sold more T-shirts than albums. That's a fact right from the early days of the group. Blitzkrieg Bop is being used by AO to sell washing machines/Fridges etc. I don't think any of the original punk bands have much in the way of "punk cred" nowadays. I for one don't blame them but I still find it sad the music is being used and the guys are all now gone and not seeing the benefit.

Adverts, maybe?

The Adverts? I don't think Vision Express or Specsavers will be using "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" any day soon.

Yeah, that's my point.

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Flex wrote:
Side note: Ramones t-shirts tend to be really good. The album covers and their logo translate super well to the shirt format.

The Ramones always sold more T-shirts than albums. That's a fact right from the early days of the group. Blitzkrieg Bop is being used by AO to sell washing machines/Fridges etc. I don't think any of the original punk bands have much in the way of "punk cred" nowadays. I for one don't blame them but I still find it sad the music is being used and the guys are all now gone and not seeing the benefit.

Adverts, maybe?

The Adverts? I don't think Vision Express or Specsavers will be using "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" any day soon.

Yeah, that's my point.

Sorry what's your point? That some bands have more cred because their music is less commercial?

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:
The Ramones always sold more T-shirts than albums. That's a fact right from the early days of the group. Blitzkrieg Bop is being used by AO to sell washing machines/Fridges etc. I don't think any of the original punk bands have much in the way of "punk cred" nowadays. I for one don't blame them but I still find it sad the music is being used and the guys are all now gone and not seeing the benefit.

Adverts, maybe?

The Adverts? I don't think Vision Express or Specsavers will be using "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" any day soon.

Yeah, that's my point.

Sorry what's your point? That some bands have more cred because their music is less commercial?

I was just responding to what I bolded in your original post.

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:
Adverts, maybe?

The Adverts? I don't think Vision Express or Specsavers will be using "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" any day soon.

Yeah, that's my point.

Sorry what's your point? That some bands have more cred because their music is less commercial?

I was just responding to what I bolded in your original post.

Ah gotcha mate.

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:

Kory wrote:

Marky Dread wrote:
The Adverts? I don't think Vision Express or Specsavers will be using "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" any day soon.

Yeah, that's my point.

Sorry what's your point? That some bands have more cred because their music is less commercial?

I was just responding to what I bolded in your original post.

Ah gotcha mate.

I mean, what do you consider to be "punk cred," if not a lack of commercialism?