A Defense of the Fuckin' Eagles: the Thread

[eumaas]

From the author's wiki:

His latest project is Rejected Unknown, a media/publishing company set up in response to the 33⅓ series of music books; it takes its name from the album by Daniel Johnston. The first book will be 101 Albums You Should Die Before You Hear, a take-down of the sacred cows of the rock music canon.

lole

I haven't mocked anybody genuinely sad about Glenn Frey. I do not like the goddamn Eagles, but hey, whatever. On the other hand, it's weird for me to imagine someone caring about the Eagles the way most of us on here cared about Bowie.

More to the point, that dude sounds like he's cut from the Klosterman cloth.

[Wolter]

From the author's wiki:

His latest project is Rejected Unknown, a media/publishing company set up in response to the 33⅓ series of music books; it takes its name from the album by Daniel Johnston. The first book will be 101 Albums You Should Die Before You Hear, a take-down of the sacred cows of the rock music canon.

lole

I haven't mocked anybody genuinely sad about Glenn Frey. I do not like the goddamn Eagles, but hey, whatever. On the other hand, it's weird for me to imagine someone caring about the Eagles the way most of us on here cared about Bowie.

More to the point, that dude sounds like he's cut from the Klosterman cloth.

Seconded. Contrarian little shit defending popular, but not very well respected, musicians out of a misguided idea that disagreeing with smart people automatically makes you smarter.

[JennyB]

What do you all think of this? http://culturecatch.com/music/glenn-frey-eagles

(I kind of feel bad. But maybe that's my Jewish guilt).

[matedog]

The Johnny Cash cover of Desperado is pretty good:
[youtube][/youtube]

I was just thinking that that, along with Hurt and Solitary Man were ones he totally made his own.

I don't care what anyone says, the NIN version of Hurt is superior.

[matedog]

Never really had much of an opinion on the Eagles. Beyond Hotel California which is a fine, inoffensive song, I haven't really hard much of their stuff. At least any more than other classic rock staples. It's fun to hate them sure, but I never really cared either way.

[101Walterton]

I watched the Egles Story film last night. I didn't know much about them other than the name and some of the big hits but I didn't realise half their singles were their's. Not my cup of tea musically.
Although they were known worldwide their record sales were disproportionately in the US which isn't suprising given their sound.
I see Glyn Johns did a fair bit of producing for them.

[Rat Patrol]

What do you all think of this? http://culturecatch.com/music/glenn-frey-eagles

(I kind of feel bad. But maybe that's my Jewish guilt).

In short, Don Henley should be killed so inoffensively inoffensive Glen Frey doesn't have to carry the burden through the afterlife of all the ill will the collective Eagles have spawned...of which that Henley asshole owns a plurality's responsibility for.


Works for me.

[Wolter]

What do you all think of this? http://culturecatch.com/music/glenn-frey-eagles

(I kind of feel bad. But maybe that's my Jewish guilt).

In short, Don Henley should be killed so inoffensively inoffensive Glen Frey doesn't have to carry the burden through the afterlife of all the ill will the collective Eagles have spawned...of which that Henley asshole owns a plurality's responsibility for.


Works for me.

The problem is that Glenn Frey was also an asshole. Again, I'm not gloating over his death. Let's just not pretend he was a great guy who everyone loved.

[Silent Majority]

The Johnny Cash cover of Desperado is pretty good:
[youtube][/youtube]

I was just thinking that that, along with Hurt and Solitary Man were ones he totally made his own.

I don't care what anyone says, the NIN version of Hurt is superior.

As a Cash fan, I feel like - and this might just be filtered CorwoodRep - Hurt's a wonderful recording, but it has nothing to do with him as a creative artist and everything to do with a semi-finger puppet producer and an open minded catholic performer. And that's over his posthumous releases too.

[Flex]

Isn't him being an open-minded catholic performer part of Johnny Cash's greatness (to those that consider him great, anyways) though? I think he exuded, through a lot of his life, an almost total willingness to embrace - or at least respect - all sorts of aesthetic values and cultural inclinations even outside of the realm of his own personal growth. That's a bit of a rare thing, and something that made Cash I think that much more accessible and relatable in turn, even to tons of people outside his traditional cultural milieu. I always liked that Rick Rubin helped harness and propel that instinct, which I think was a through-line throughout Cash's career, and turn it up to 11, so to speak, with those last records.

[Silent Majority]

Isn't him being an open-minded catholic performer part of Johnny Cash's greatness (to those that consider him great, anyways) though? I think he exuded, through a lot of his life, an almost total willingness to embrace - or at least respect - all sorts of aesthetic values and cultural inclinations even outside of the realm of his own personal growth.That's a bit of a rare thing, and something that made Cash I think that much more accessible and relatable in turn, even to tons of people outside his traditional cultural milieu. I always liked that Rick Rubin helped harness and propel that instinct, which I think was a through-line throughout Cash's career, and turn it up to 11, so to speak, with those last records

The first American Recordings album treads that line perfectly I think, and I return it more than any other Cash album that isn't San Quentin or My Mother's Hymn Book. I love that he respected other aesthetic values but I think there also needs to be a fit between the previous work and the current. I don't feel as strong a continuity from American II onwards with his other stuff. As much as there are great recordings past there, there's also increased likelihood of corny burlesques.

[Flex]

corny burlesques.

See, that's where I fail to understand how this doesn't seem to fit into the man's oeuvre for you.

I think it's instructive to listen to the live performances he was performing around that time. They're extremely aesthetically similar, even though he's running through his old songbook. I'm comfortable with the idea that Rubin was tapping into where he was as a performer at the time, and continuing Cash's lifelong theme of covers that ran from the classic to the contemporary to the (sometimes more than) vaguely novelty. I mean, the dude has some pretty ridiculous stuff in his catalog. It's not all Folsom Prisons (or Out Among the Stars) or what-have-you.

[Rat Patrol]

Shorter MajBot: The Eagles are so loathsomely boring that not even Rick Rubin at peak meglomania thought he could do a fuckin' thing to make hipsters like them.

[Marky Dread]

Eagles...fuck off!

[BostonBeaneater]

Congress Allocates $90 Million To Protect Remaining Eagles Members


http://www.theonion.com/article/congres ... g-ea-52210