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Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by CorwoodRep » 29 Nov 2012, 1:15am

I'm not a Dylanologist or anything, but two observations:

1. How is it that he can nail a take in studio in 2012 and when he finally gets around to playing the song live he no longer sings anything resembling the original vocal melody? This is a relatively recent phenomenon. Grizzled and broken as his voice is, he can still sing with it, and yet on tour he just doesn't do it.

2. Shelter From The Storm is a revelation with a full-band arrangement:

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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Marky Dread » 29 Nov 2012, 1:43am

Kaleb wrote:I'm not a Dylanologist or anything, but two observations:

1. How is it that he can nail a take in studio in 2012 and when he finally gets around to playing the song live he no longer sings anything resembling the original vocal melody? This is a relatively recent phenomenon. Grizzled and broken as his voice is, he can still sing with it, and yet on tour he just doesn't do it.

2. Shelter From The Storm is a revelation with a full-band arrangement:

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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by CorwoodRep » 29 Nov 2012, 1:52am

Can you do that and still keep the integrity of his voice though? By which I mean, the voice on the records is identical to the live voice, just holding notes for the correct amount of time instead of blurting them out savagely and without joy.
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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Rat Patrol » 29 Nov 2012, 10:51am

https://www.google.com/search?q=Salsbur ... 65&bih=993


Oh darn...I left the doors to the KILLvan unlocked with the keys in the ignition. I ever so hope nothing bad comes of this. :shifty:
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Post by Dr. Medulla » 29 Nov 2012, 11:07am

Rat Patrol wrote:https://www.google.com/search?q=Salsbur ... 65&bih=993


Oh darn...I left the doors to the KILLvan unlocked with the keys in the ignition. I ever so hope nothing bad comes of this. :shifty:
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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Marky Dread » 29 Nov 2012, 1:33pm

Kaleb wrote:Can you do that and still keep the integrity of his voice though? By which I mean, the voice on the records is identical to the live voice, just holding notes for the correct amount of time instead of blurting them out savagely and without joy.
Maybe, dunno for sure but there are an awful lot os singers these days who go on stage with some sorta vocal tech to make them sound how they do in the studio.
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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Rat Patrol » 30 Nov 2012, 12:57am

Rat Patrol wrote:https://www.google.com/search?q=Salsbur ... 65&bih=993


Oh darn...I left the doors to the KILLvan unlocked with the keys in the ignition. I ever so hope nothing bad comes of this. :shifty:

Boy...that sure killed this thread in a hurry. :lol:

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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by clashrocker » 06 Dec 2012, 5:04pm

Dylan does what he wants.

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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Flex » 16 Jul 2013, 12:11pm

Holy fuck yes:
Columbia Records will release Bob Dylan's The Bootleg Series, Vol. 10 - Another Self Portrait (1969-1971) on August 27*, bringing fresh perspective to one of the artist's most controversial periods and revealing it to be one of his most wonderfully creative and prolific. Containing 35 rarities and previously unreleased recordings, Another Self Portrait (1969-1971) is the latest edition of Dylan's acclaimed Bootleg Series and is available in both a standard two-disc set and in a four-disc deluxe box set.

The unreleased recordings, demos and alternate takes on Another Self Portrait -- drawn mainly from the 1970 studio recording sessions that resulted in the official 1970 albums Self Portrait and New Morning albums -- shed new light on an essential and pivotal period in the artist's ongoing musical evolution.
Featured on Another Self Portrait are a previously unavailable version of "Only A Hobo" and the demo version of "When I Paint My Masterpiece," a track that finds Dylan, who'd been signed as a recording artist not quite a decade earlier, looking to the future, promising that "Someday, everything's gonna be smooth like a rhapsody, when I paint my masterpiece."

Bob Dylan has created a new painting as the cover art for The Bootleg Series, Vol. 10 - Another Self Portrait (1969-1971).

The Bootleg Series, Vol. 10 - Another Self Portrait (1969-1971) will be available in a standard two-disc configuration as well as in a four-disc deluxe boxed set which will include, for the first time ever, the complete historic performance by Bob Dylan and The Band from the Isle of Wight Festival on August 31, 1969. Housed in a slipcase, the deluxe edition will include the newly remastered version of the 1970 Self Portrait album, in its entirety with original sequencing, in addition to two hardcover books featuring revisionist liner notes penned by Greil Marcus (author of the notorious "What is this shit?" 1970 Self Portrait review in Rolling Stone).
Full article: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/feature/what ... ugust-27-r

This is one of my favorite eras for Bob - musically, vocally, lyrically - and it's been critically underrepresented on previous Bootleg volumes. Glad to see they're mining this era. Plus, finally an official release of the Isle of Wight '69 show. Very stoked.

Addendum: Here's the track listing:

The Bootleg Series, Vol. 10 - Another Self Portrait (1969-1971)
CD 1

1 Went To See The Gypsy (demo)
2 In Search Of Little Sadie (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
3 Pretty Saro (unreleased, Self Portrait)
4 Alberta #3 (alternate version, Self Portrait)
5 Spanish Is The Loving Tongue (unreleased, Self Portrait)
6 Annie's Going To Sing Her Song (unreleased, Self Portrait)
7 Time Passes Slowly #1 (alternate version, New Morning)
8 Only A Hobo (unreleased, Greatest Hits II)
9 Minstrel Boy (unreleased, The Basement Tapes)
10 I Threw It All Away (alternate version, Nashville Skyline)
11 Railroad Bill (unreleased, Self Portrait)
12 Thirsty Boots (unreleased, Self Portrait)
13 This Evening So Soon (unreleased, Self Portrait)
14 These Hands (unreleased, Self Portrait)
15 Little Sadie (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
16 House Carpenter (unreleased, Self Portrait)
17 All The Tired Horses (without overdubs, Self Portrait)

The Bootleg Series, Vol. 10 - Another Self Portrait (1969-1971)
CD 2

1 If Not For You (alternate version, New Morning)
2 Wallflower (alternate version, 1971)
3 Wigwam (original version without overdubs, Self Portrait)
4 Days Of '49 (original version without overdubs, Self Portrait)
5 Working On A Guru (unreleased, New Morning)
6 Country Pie (alternate version, Nashville Skyline)
7 I'll Be Your Baby Tonight (Live With The Band, Isle Of Wight 1969)
8 Highway 61 Revisited (Live With The Band, Isle Of Wight 1969)
9 Copper Kettle (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
10 Bring Me A Little Water (unreleased, New Morning)
11 Sign On The Window (with orchestral overdubs, New Morning)
12 Tattle O'Day (unreleased, Self Portrait)
13 If Dogs Run Free (alternate version, New Morning)
14 New Morning (with horn section overdubs, New Morning)
15 Went To See The Gypsy (alternate version, New Morning)
16 Belle Isle (without overdubs, Self Portrait)
17 Time Passes Slowly #2 (alternate version, New Morning)
18 When I Paint My Masterpiece (demo)

Bob Dylan & The Band
Isle of Wight - August 31, 1969

1 She Belongs To Me
2 I Threw It All Away
3 Maggie's Farm
4 Wild Mountain Thyme
5 It Ain't Me, Babe
6 To Ramona/ Mr. Tambourine Man
7 I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine
8 Lay Lady Lay
9 Highway 61 Revisited
10 One Too Many Mornings
11 I Pity The Poor Immigrant
12 Like A Rolling Stone
13 I'll Be Your Baby Tonight
14 Quinn The Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn)
15 Minstrel Boy
16 Rainy Day Women #12 & 35

+ remastered Self Portrait
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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Dr. Medulla » 16 Jul 2013, 12:30pm

Looks like another set for the low testosterone, NPR, rainbow flag crowd. :shifty:
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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Chuck Mangione » 16 Jul 2013, 3:23pm

The first thing my mind said when reading that was "You see this Sony? This is what the Clash should get."


Great news. Can't wait to hear it all.

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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by CorwoodRep » 16 Jul 2013, 3:54pm

I'm giddy about the disc with the Band.
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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Heston » 16 Jul 2013, 6:25pm

Will the cunt be singing in tune on these versions?
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Dr. Medulla » 16 Jul 2013, 6:32pm

Heston wrote:Will the cunt be singing in tune on these versions?
And alienate his fans?
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Re: Deep Bob Dylan Theory 2012

Post by Marky Dread » 16 Jul 2013, 6:44pm

Heston wrote:Will the cunt be singing in tune on these versions?
Why start now?
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