Sure, I'd just say it was the last time the band didn't just try to make Endless Summer as a new studio album.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:17pmYeah, but I also think like his work on 15 Big Ones, Brian wasn't committed to following through on those tracks. He had ideas, but lacked focus. Carl had to do quite a bit of work getting Love You to being acceptable for release.Flex wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:15pmExcept for the wonderful, mad detour through Love You, of course.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:13pmThe singing on 15 Big Ones is generally poor. Brian sounds like he's smoked 1,000 cartons of Marlboros.
15 Big Ones was the beginning of the end.
They start out the 1970's still trying to sound relevant: Sunflower, Surf's Up, So Tough, Holland.
American Graffiti comes out in 1973, featuring several vintage Beach Boys tunes. Capitol smelling some $$$ releases the Endless Summer comp and a worn out, nostalgia wanting America laps it up.
That was it. It was no longer about being a working band, it was all about trying to recapture the nostalgia with album after album of crap with Michael Edward Love happily leading the way. He was suddenly "cool" again and there was no way he was letting go of that.
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That's a great way to look at it.Flex wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:20pmSure, I'd just say it was the last time the band didn't just try to make Endless Summer as a new studio album.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:17pmYeah, but I also think like his work on 15 Big Ones, Brian wasn't committed to following through on those tracks. He had ideas, but lacked focus. Carl had to do quite a bit of work getting Love You to being acceptable for release.Flex wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:15pmExcept for the wonderful, mad detour through Love You, of course.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:13pmThe singing on 15 Big Ones is generally poor. Brian sounds like he's smoked 1,000 cartons of Marlboros.
15 Big Ones was the beginning of the end.
They start out the 1970's still trying to sound relevant: Sunflower, Surf's Up, So Tough, Holland.
American Graffiti comes out in 1973, featuring several vintage Beach Boys tunes. Capitol smelling some $$$ releases the Endless Summer comp and a worn out, nostalgia wanting America laps it up.
That was it. It was no longer about being a working band, it was all about trying to recapture the nostalgia with album after album of crap with Michael Edward Love happily leading the way. He was suddenly "cool" again and there was no way he was letting go of that.
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Been watching clips of the band from the early 60s. I swear, Mike Love just seems like a fucking creeper, hunched over and to the side of the rest of the band. I shudder to think that there were teenage girls who picked him as their favourite.
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At least we now know the ones that picked Brian were ass girls.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 8:50pmBeen watching clips of the band from the early 60s. I swear, Mike Love just seems like a fucking creeper, hunched over and to the side of the rest of the band. I shudder to think that there were teenage girls who picked him as their favourite.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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I'm guessing Carl was a wideload back then, too.matedog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 9:39pmAt least we now know the ones that picked Brian were ass girls.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 8:50pmBeen watching clips of the band from the early 60s. I swear, Mike Love just seems like a fucking creeper, hunched over and to the side of the rest of the band. I shudder to think that there were teenage girls who picked him as their favourite.
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“Damn those Wilson boys is THICC.” - female teenage fan ca. 1964 small town, Indiana.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 10:25pmI'm guessing Carl was a wideload back then, too.matedog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 9:39pmAt least we now know the ones that picked Brian were ass girls.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 8:50pmBeen watching clips of the band from the early 60s. I swear, Mike Love just seems like a fucking creeper, hunched over and to the side of the rest of the band. I shudder to think that there were teenage girls who picked him as their favourite.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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matedog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 10:49pm“Damn those Wilson boys is THICC.” - female teenage fan ca. 1964 small town, Indiana.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 10:25pmI'm guessing Carl was a wideload back then, too.matedog wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 9:39pmAt least we now know the ones that picked Brian were ass girls.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 8:50pmBeen watching clips of the band from the early 60s. I swear, Mike Love just seems like a fucking creeper, hunched over and to the side of the rest of the band. I shudder to think that there were teenage girls who picked him as their favourite.

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When Mike does the band intros on the Beach Boys Concert LP you get a sense for who was popular with the young girls and who was not so popular. Denny and Brian get the loudest shrieks, Al gets almost no shrieks, Carl gets a few. We never quite hear how many Mike would have gotten because he doesn't intro himself (shockingly).
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God bless Carl for trying to keep this train wreck of an interview on track. Dennis is completely wasted. Brian is appearing as Mr. Roboto. Mike & Al look deflated, though Mike is also wearing the World's Shiniest Jacket.
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Lawn gnome is a very distinct fetish.WestwayKid wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 10:02amWhen Mike does the band intros on the Beach Boys Concert LP you get a sense for who was popular with the young girls and who was not so popular. Denny and Brian get the loudest shrieks, Al gets almost no shrieks, Carl gets a few. We never quite hear how many Mike would have gotten because he doesn't intro himself (shockingly).
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Wow, that rivals the PiL-Tom Snyder interview for trainwreckery.WestwayKid wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 10:29am
God bless Carl for trying to keep this train wreck of an interview on track. Dennis is completely wasted. Brian is appearing as Mr. Roboto. Mike & Al look deflated, though Mike is also wearing the World's Shiniest Jacket.

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It's understandable that Carl left a few months later.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 10:40amWow, that rivals the PiL-Tom Snyder interview for trainwreckery.WestwayKid wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 10:29am
God bless Carl for trying to keep this train wreck of an interview on track. Dennis is completely wasted. Brian is appearing as Mr. Roboto. Mike & Al look deflated, though Mike is also wearing the World's Shiniest Jacket.![]()
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It took awhile for Carl to perfect his zaddy look as the kids say:WestwayKid wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 10:02amWhen Mike does the band intros on the Beach Boys Concert LP you get a sense for who was popular with the young girls and who was not so popular. Denny and Brian get the loudest shrieks, Al gets almost no shrieks, Carl gets a few. We never quite hear how many Mike would have gotten because he doesn't intro himself (shockingly).

Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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The way Beach Boys fans are, I have no idea if you are serious or not.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Listened this morning and yeah, lots and lots of covers. Bad covers. I keep thinking Dennis is singing everything, but Brian sounds like Dennis at this point. He sounds legit scary hoarsely telling some poor girl, "come on and answer the phone" over and over again. "Back Home" is alright I guess.WestwayKid wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 6:13pm
The singing on 15 Big Ones is generally poor. Brian sounds like he's smoked 1,000 cartons of Marlboros.
15 Big Ones was the beginning of the end.
They start out the 1970's still trying to sound relevant: Sunflower, Surf's Up, So Tough, Holland.
American Graffiti comes out in 1973, featuring several vintage Beach Boys tunes. Capitol smelling some $$$ releases the Endless Summer comp and a worn out, nostalgia wanting America laps it up.
That was it. It was no longer about being a working band, it was all about trying to recapture the nostalgia with album after album of crap with Michael Edward Love happily leading the way. He was suddenly "cool" again and there was no way he was letting go of that.
I actually think Brian had some interesting ideas on 15 Big Ones, but he lacked the focus (or maybe desire) to bring them to life. "Had To Phone Ya" could have been a good song, but it feels unfinished.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.