These are a given:
Sex Pistols - Anarchy
The Clash - White Riot
SLF - Suspect Device
The Ruts - In A Rut
Undertones - Teenage Kicks
In the spirit of the thread:
Ian Dury and the Blockheads - Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll
Elvis Costello - Less Than Zero
XTC - Science Friction
Joy Division - Transmission
The Slits - Typical Girls
I would put the JD track in the post punk top 5 in a couple of weeks time.
Not to be "that guy" but doesn't XTC fall into that category as well? I nearly put the Pogues debut down but figured they could fit neatly into a post punk category for which I suspect I wont have many options.
In fairness mate it's a pretty broad church. I think up to and including Drums & Wires XTC fit reasonably neatly into the punk/new wave catergory. By 1980 and the release of Black Sea they are heading into a slightly more traditional sound. Punk/post punk means different things to different people to some it's era defined to others it's angular guitars like Wire/Gang of Four etc. Others you get the neo-psychedelia like Echo & the Bunnymen. With Joy Division they came out of the much more punky sounding Warsaw so they fit with the post punk tag.
I confess to having heard very little XTC, of which maybe my mom or dad would have classified as punk. But if you are throwing new wave in then yeah but I always saw that more broadly as post punk than punk. But I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest of categorizing music by the equivalent of species, genus, phylum etc.
Just as long as we all agree Nirvana is heavy metal.
These are a given:
Sex Pistols - Anarchy
The Clash - White Riot
SLF - Suspect Device
The Ruts - In A Rut
Undertones - Teenage Kicks
In the spirit of the thread:
Ian Dury and the Blockheads - Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll
Elvis Costello - Less Than Zero
XTC - Science Friction
Joy Division - Transmission
The Slits - Typical Girls
I would put the JD track in the post punk top 5 in a couple of weeks time.
Not to be "that guy" but doesn't XTC fall into that category as well? I nearly put the Pogues debut down but figured they could fit neatly into a post punk category for which I suspect I wont have many options.
In fairness mate it's a pretty broad church. I think up to and including Drums & Wires XTC fit reasonably neatly into the punk/new wave catergory. By 1980 and the release of Black Sea they are heading into a slightly more traditional sound. Punk/post punk means different things to different people to some it's era defined to others it's angular guitars like Wire/Gang of Four etc. Others you get the neo-psychedelia like Echo & the Bunnymen. With Joy Division they came out of the much more punky sounding Warsaw so they fit with the post punk tag.
I confess to having heard very little XTC, of which maybe my mom or dad would have classified as punk. But if you are throwing new wave in then yeah but I always saw that more broadly as post punk than punk. But I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest of categorizing music by the equivalent of species, genus, phylum etc.
Just as long as we all agree Nirvana is heavy metal.
Nivana are Nirvana.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
I would put the JD track in the post punk top 5 in a couple of weeks time.
Not to be "that guy" but doesn't XTC fall into that category as well? I nearly put the Pogues debut down but figured they could fit neatly into a post punk category for which I suspect I wont have many options.
In fairness mate it's a pretty broad church. I think up to and including Drums & Wires XTC fit reasonably neatly into the punk/new wave catergory. By 1980 and the release of Black Sea they are heading into a slightly more traditional sound. Punk/post punk means different things to different people to some it's era defined to others it's angular guitars like Wire/Gang of Four etc. Others you get the neo-psychedelia like Echo & the Bunnymen. With Joy Division they came out of the much more punky sounding Warsaw so they fit with the post punk tag.
I confess to having heard very little XTC, of which maybe my mom or dad would have classified as punk. But if you are throwing new wave in then yeah but I always saw that more broadly as post punk than punk. But I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest of categorizing music by the equivalent of species, genus, phylum etc.
Just as long as we all agree Nirvana is heavy metal.
Not to be "that guy" but doesn't XTC fall into that category as well? I nearly put the Pogues debut down but figured they could fit neatly into a post punk category for which I suspect I wont have many options.
In fairness mate it's a pretty broad church. I think up to and including Drums & Wires XTC fit reasonably neatly into the punk/new wave catergory. By 1980 and the release of Black Sea they are heading into a slightly more traditional sound. Punk/post punk means different things to different people to some it's era defined to others it's angular guitars like Wire/Gang of Four etc. Others you get the neo-psychedelia like Echo & the Bunnymen. With Joy Division they came out of the much more punky sounding Warsaw so they fit with the post punk tag.
I confess to having heard very little XTC, of which maybe my mom or dad would have classified as punk. But if you are throwing new wave in then yeah but I always saw that more broadly as post punk than punk. But I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest of categorizing music by the equivalent of species, genus, phylum etc.
Just as long as we all agree Nirvana is heavy metal.
Nivana are Nirvana.
Quite drab.
Do nothing for me.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
These are a given:
Sex Pistols - Anarchy
The Clash - White Riot
SLF - Suspect Device
The Ruts - In A Rut
Undertones - Teenage Kicks
In the spirit of the thread:
Ian Dury and the Blockheads - Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll
Elvis Costello - Less Than Zero
XTC - Science Friction
Joy Division - Transmission
The Slits - Typical Girls
I would put the JD track in the post punk top 5 in a couple of weeks time.
Not to be "that guy" but doesn't XTC fall into that category as well? I nearly put the Pogues debut down but figured they could fit neatly into a post punk category for which I suspect I wont have many options.
In fairness mate it's a pretty broad church. I think up to and including Drums & Wires XTC fit reasonably neatly into the punk/new wave catergory. By 1980 and the release of Black Sea they are heading into a slightly more traditional sound. Punk/post punk means different things to different people to some it's era defined to others it's angular guitars like Wire/Gang of Four etc. Others you get the neo-psychedelia like Echo & the Bunnymen. With Joy Division they came out of the much more punky sounding Warsaw so they fit with the post punk tag.
I confess to having heard very little XTC, of which maybe my mom or dad would have classified as punk. But if you are throwing new wave in then yeah but I always saw that more broadly as post punk than punk. But I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest of categorizing music by the equivalent of species, genus, phylum etc.
Just as long as we all agree Nirvana is heavy metal.
I included XTC mainly because of the timing 1977 but also the sound was very punk inspired.
You could make the same argument for Elvis Costello.
I would put the JD track in the post punk top 5 in a couple of weeks time.
Not to be "that guy" but doesn't XTC fall into that category as well? I nearly put the Pogues debut down but figured they could fit neatly into a post punk category for which I suspect I wont have many options.
In fairness mate it's a pretty broad church. I think up to and including Drums & Wires XTC fit reasonably neatly into the punk/new wave catergory. By 1980 and the release of Black Sea they are heading into a slightly more traditional sound. Punk/post punk means different things to different people to some it's era defined to others it's angular guitars like Wire/Gang of Four etc. Others you get the neo-psychedelia like Echo & the Bunnymen. With Joy Division they came out of the much more punky sounding Warsaw so they fit with the post punk tag.
I confess to having heard very little XTC, of which maybe my mom or dad would have classified as punk. But if you are throwing new wave in then yeah but I always saw that more broadly as post punk than punk. But I'm not looking to get into a pissing contest of categorizing music by the equivalent of species, genus, phylum etc.
Just as long as we all agree Nirvana is heavy metal.
I included XTC mainly because of the timing 1977 but also the sound was very punk inspired. You could make the same argument for Elvis Costello.
Oh I would, that is to say I wouldn't classify him in the punk realm either. Good yes, inspired by perhaps but punk no.
It's no bad you know. ''Charles'' is the obvious single choice but all three tracks are great. Not so long ago having sold my Skids singles I can't check the run-out grooves. But Discogs has this info :
Matrix / Runout (Label Side A): RISKI TOO
Matrix / Runout (Label Side B): RISKI ONE
Matrix / Runout (Runout etched Side A): NB - 1 - B1 1 KEV B
Matrix / Runout (Runout etched Side B): NB - 1 - A1 1 KEV C
Which suggest it was most likely a bit of fun on part of the band/label.
London - Everyone's A Winner
Penetration - Fascist Dictator
The Cure - Killing An Arab
Plastic Bertrand - Ça Plane Pour Moi
ATV - How Much Longer (ignoring Love Lies Limp flexi)
Killing An Arab is great. And Plastic Bertrand is also excellent fun. Bit of a convoluted story behind that release Elton Motello/Captain Sensible & The Softies blah blah blah.
Correcting the clanger...
Penetration - Don't Dictate
The Cortinas - Fascist Dictator
+ The Rezillos debut, I Can't Stand My Baby, is a cracker.
London - Everyone's A Winner
Penetration - Fascist Dictator
The Cure - Killing An Arab
Plastic Bertrand - Ça Plane Pour Moi
ATV - How Much Longer (ignoring Love Lies Limp flexi)
Killing An Arab is great. And Plastic Bertrand is also excellent fun. Bit of a convoluted story behind that release Elton Motello/Captain Sensible & The Softies blah blah blah.
Correcting the clanger...
Penetration - Don't Dictate
The Cortinas - Fascist Dictator
+ The Rezillos debut, I Can't Stand My Baby, is a cracker.
All excellent.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
Will post the US top 5 on Thursday. I think 1976 again for a starting reference. I see Patti Smith's ''Horses'' being the last great proto punk record before the complete shift.
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
As promised. Top 5 US debut punk singles from 1976 onwards.
1. Blitzkrieg Bop - Ramones
2. Chinese Rocks - (Johnny Thunders &) The Heartbreakers
3. Blank Generation - Richard Hell & The Voidoids
4. X Offender - Blondie
5. Sonic Reducer - The Dead Boys
Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty
We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.
All American Hardcore Edition (I'm including 7" EPs since, you know, you could fit a bunch of hardcore songs in the space of a single):
1. Minor Threat - Minor Threat
2. Dead Kennedys - California Über Alles b/w The Man With the Dogs
3. Last Rights - Chunks b/w So Ends Our Night
4. Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown
5. Bad Religion - Bad Religion
Special shoutout to Teen Idles - Minor Disturbance. I don't listen to it a ton, but as the first ever Dischord release it's probably one of the most important singles ever released in American punk.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a bowl of soup
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a rolling hoop
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle like a ton of lead
Wiggle - you can raise the dead
''Charles'' is the obvious single choice but all three tracks are great. Not so long ago having sold my Skids singles I can't check the run-out grooves. But Discogs has this info :
