Biggest musical twat, VOTE NOW!

General music discussion.

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the biggest twat of them all?

Phil Collins
5
10%
Bono
20
39%
Sting
4
8%
Clapton
16
31%
All of the Eagles
5
10%
Other
1
2%
 
Total votes: 51

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Heston wrote:Can I make a last ditch appeal for everyone to change their vote to Clapton?
You know what? I did. Because fuck that racist piece of shit.
Have you forgotten about all of Bono's "humanitarian" work with dictators and the IMF?
Flex wrote:I haven't voted yet (I can still be bought!) but it's hard to weigh Clapton's transgressions as worse when Bono actively supports and promotes systemically racist and oppressive systems that have probably resulted in the suffering and deaths of a lot of marginalized ethnic groups around the world. Clapton is a massive douchebag, but as far as I know the most harm he's actually done to others is put out limp solo albums.

As some kind of actual global political figure, Bono is accountable for much, more more than Clapton.
JennyB wrote:
Wolter wrote:Sorry, Flex totally swayed me back.
Me too, sorry. I don't THINK Clapton actually pushed his son out the window. Bono is probably responsible for the deaths of thousands of sub-Saharan African children. So, Bono it is.
Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.

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drowninghere wrote:Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.
Bono isn't particular to this critique, rather he's a face on the failing western aid model of, er, aid to Africa. Here's one discussion between some activists and experts on the issue: http://www.how-matters.org/2011/04/22/a ... lonialism/

Dambisa Moyo has done good work cataloging the problems with the current western aid strategy, even though I disagree substantively with some of her proposed solutions. She has a book on the subject, but here's an article that gives a taste of her argument: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html

Melanie over at Broadsnark has written once or twice on the issue of Western aid to Africa. While this particular piece deals with the Kony video, I think her takeaways apply more broadly to the Western-Aid-Industrial-Complex in general (and shade at what I think are the preferable alternative goals of dismantling - not entrenching - government power in Africa and elsewhere): http://www.broadsnark.com/kony-and-the- ... -advocacy/

For some more specifics on what that alternative vision of how to improve the lives of Africans and empower them without resorting to supporting corrupt regimes or western supremacy, check this and this out.
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Flex wrote:
drowninghere wrote:Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.
Bono isn't particular to this critique, rather he's a face on the failing western aid model of, er, aid to Africa. Here's one discussion between some activists and experts on the issue: http://www.how-matters.org/2011/04/22/a ... lonialism/

Dambisa Moyo has done good work cataloging the problems with the current western aid strategy, even though I disagree substantively with some of her proposed solutions. She has a book on the subject, but here's an article that gives a taste of her argument: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html

Melanie over at Broadsnark has written once or twice on the issue of Western aid to Africa. While this particular piece deals with the Kony video, I think her takeaways apply more broadly to the Western-Aid-Industrial-Complex in general (and shade at what I think are the preferable alternative goals of dismantling - not entrenching - government power in Africa and elsewhere): http://www.broadsnark.com/kony-and-the- ... -advocacy/

For some more specifics on what that alternative vision of how to improve the lives of Africans and empower them without resorting to supporting corrupt regimes or western supremacy, check this and this out.
Yeah, but Clapton had the sleeves rolled up on his suit jacket at Live Aid.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:
drowninghere wrote:Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.
Bono isn't particular to this critique, rather he's a face on the failing western aid model of, er, aid to Africa. Here's one discussion between some activists and experts on the issue: http://www.how-matters.org/2011/04/22/a ... lonialism/

Dambisa Moyo has done good work cataloging the problems with the current western aid strategy, even though I disagree substantively with some of her proposed solutions. She has a book on the subject, but here's an article that gives a taste of her argument: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html

Melanie over at Broadsnark has written once or twice on the issue of Western aid to Africa. While this particular piece deals with the Kony video, I think her takeaways apply more broadly to the Western-Aid-Industrial-Complex in general (and shade at what I think are the preferable alternative goals of dismantling - not entrenching - government power in Africa and elsewhere): http://www.broadsnark.com/kony-and-the- ... -advocacy/

For some more specifics on what that alternative vision of how to improve the lives of Africans and empower them without resorting to supporting corrupt regimes or western supremacy, check this and this out.
Yeah, but Clapton had the sleeves rolled up on his suit jacket at Live Aid.
When you look up the word "Cunt" in the English dictionary it says : see Clapton.
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Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:
drowninghere wrote:Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.
Bono isn't particular to this critique, rather he's a face on the failing western aid model of, er, aid to Africa. Here's one discussion between some activists and experts on the issue: http://www.how-matters.org/2011/04/22/a ... lonialism/

Dambisa Moyo has done good work cataloging the problems with the current western aid strategy, even though I disagree substantively with some of her proposed solutions. She has a book on the subject, but here's an article that gives a taste of her argument: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html

Melanie over at Broadsnark has written once or twice on the issue of Western aid to Africa. While this particular piece deals with the Kony video, I think her takeaways apply more broadly to the Western-Aid-Industrial-Complex in general (and shade at what I think are the preferable alternative goals of dismantling - not entrenching - government power in Africa and elsewhere): http://www.broadsnark.com/kony-and-the- ... -advocacy/

For some more specifics on what that alternative vision of how to improve the lives of Africans and empower them without resorting to supporting corrupt regimes or western supremacy, check this and this out.
Yeah, but Clapton had the sleeves rolled up on his suit jacket at Live Aid.
When you look up the word "Cunt" in the English dictionary it says : see Clapton.
Well his face looks like a big hairy clam.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:
drowninghere wrote:Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.
Bono isn't particular to this critique, rather he's a face on the failing western aid model of, er, aid to Africa. Here's one discussion between some activists and experts on the issue: http://www.how-matters.org/2011/04/22/a ... lonialism/

Dambisa Moyo has done good work cataloging the problems with the current western aid strategy, even though I disagree substantively with some of her proposed solutions. She has a book on the subject, but here's an article that gives a taste of her argument: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html

Melanie over at Broadsnark has written once or twice on the issue of Western aid to Africa. While this particular piece deals with the Kony video, I think her takeaways apply more broadly to the Western-Aid-Industrial-Complex in general (and shade at what I think are the preferable alternative goals of dismantling - not entrenching - government power in Africa and elsewhere): http://www.broadsnark.com/kony-and-the- ... -advocacy/

For some more specifics on what that alternative vision of how to improve the lives of Africans and empower them without resorting to supporting corrupt regimes or western supremacy, check this and this out.
Yeah, but Clapton had the sleeves rolled up on his suit jacket at Live Aid.
When you look up the word "Cunt" in the English dictionary it says : see Clapton.
Well his face looks like a big hairy clam.
:lol:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Collins#Activism

Twat Sphincter is a Mason.

This...changes...everything.

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Rat Patrol wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Collins#Activism

Twat Sphincter is a Mason.

This...changes...everything.

:shifty: Image :ugeek:
I wish to lodge a complaint.
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Marky Dread wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Collins#Activism

Twat Sphincter is a Mason.

This...changes...everything.

:shifty: Image :ugeek:
I wish to lodge a complaint.
:mrgreen:
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Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:
drowninghere wrote:Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.
Bono isn't particular to this critique, rather he's a face on the failing western aid model of, er, aid to Africa. Here's one discussion between some activists and experts on the issue: http://www.how-matters.org/2011/04/22/a ... lonialism/

Dambisa Moyo has done good work cataloging the problems with the current western aid strategy, even though I disagree substantively with some of her proposed solutions. She has a book on the subject, but here's an article that gives a taste of her argument: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html

Melanie over at Broadsnark has written once or twice on the issue of Western aid to Africa. While this particular piece deals with the Kony video, I think her takeaways apply more broadly to the Western-Aid-Industrial-Complex in general (and shade at what I think are the preferable alternative goals of dismantling - not entrenching - government power in Africa and elsewhere): http://www.broadsnark.com/kony-and-the- ... -advocacy/

For some more specifics on what that alternative vision of how to improve the lives of Africans and empower them without resorting to supporting corrupt regimes or western supremacy, check this and this out.
Yeah, but Clapton had the sleeves rolled up on his suit jacket at Live Aid.
God dammit. I'm changing my vote back to Clapton. Chinless bastard.
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Flex wrote:
drowninghere wrote:Anyone got a quality link for this type of argument (the best I could find was the general idea of 'flooding Africa with western aid'). I suspect I wildly disagree with it, but I'm interested in understanding an intelligent argument in its favour.
Bono isn't particular to this critique, rather he's a face on the failing western aid model of, er, aid to Africa. Here's one discussion between some activists and experts on the issue: http://www.how-matters.org/2011/04/22/a ... lonialism/

Dambisa Moyo has done good work cataloging the problems with the current western aid strategy, even though I disagree substantively with some of her proposed solutions. She has a book on the subject, but here's an article that gives a taste of her argument: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html

Melanie over at Broadsnark has written once or twice on the issue of Western aid to Africa. While this particular piece deals with the Kony video, I think her takeaways apply more broadly to the Western-Aid-Industrial-Complex in general (and shade at what I think are the preferable alternative goals of dismantling - not entrenching - government power in Africa and elsewhere): http://www.broadsnark.com/kony-and-the- ... -advocacy/

For some more specifics on what that alternative vision of how to improve the lives of Africans and empower them without resorting to supporting corrupt regimes or western supremacy, check this and this out.
Thanks.

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http://ultimateclassicrock.com/styx-for ... interview/

Oh God, the twat is collapsing into a singularity and pulling everything in with it.

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Rat Patrol wrote:http://ultimateclassicrock.com/styx-for ... interview/

Oh God, the twat is collapsing into a singularity and pulling everything in with it.
A Styx-Foreigner-Eagles scenario is a classic "if I had only one bullet I'd shoot myself" situation.
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Rat Patrol wrote:http://ultimateclassicrock.com/styx-for ... interview/

Oh God, the twat is collapsing into a singularity and pulling everything in with it.
They're not actually touring. They're just playing a 120 night residency in the 'Jortsville.

I swear to fucking god, Echo and the Bunnymen is touring and on the off chance they come here (which they won't), they would draw about 1/100th the crowd.
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JennyB wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:http://ultimateclassicrock.com/styx-for ... interview/

Oh God, the twat is collapsing into a singularity and pulling everything in with it.
They're not actually touring. They're just playing a 120 night residency in the 'Jortsville.

I swear to fucking god, Echo and the Bunnymen is touring and on the off chance they come here (which they won't), they would draw about 1/100th the crowd.
Maybe if they added a couple guys from Huey Lewis & the News and someone from .38 Special.

edit: .38 Special still exists and tours and everything. That really shouldn't surprise me, given that Loverboy still gets paid to perform, but the idea that there are enough people that would want to see .38 Special that they keep at it, that's … curious.
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