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The Protopunk Thread

Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Jul 2010, 3:44pm

This list is heaven.

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Silent_Mi ... proto_punk

Any other bands/artists that can be classified as protopunk that the list forgot? I can think of a lot more...
Maybe a bit of a stretch but here it is:

Alice Cooper (You know how everyone says he was [his early stuff])
Be Bop Deluxe
The Birds (Along with The Troggs, they helped The Stooges and Iggy get the idea and courage to go for that strange, fucked up sound and attitude)
Blue Cheer (Though it does mention them a little, just not list them. And plus they're more proto-heavy metal/proto-hard rock)
Captain Beefheart (What the fuck? Way to not mention one of the most important artists that helped shape punk)
Can (Yeah, a little bit of a stretch and is more Krautrock/progressive rock-protopunk, proto-postpunk, proto-Alternative Rock and proto-indie rock, but hey the list labels Big Star - more power pop and proto-Alternative Rock, see The Replacements) - and fucking Futurism as protopunk)
Cherry Vanilla
Chrome
Count Five (I know you can pretty much say the whole "Nuggets" series, but they stand out a lot)
Cramps (though it does mention Lux)
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown
David Bowie (how they mention Lou Reed [as protopunk] but not Bowie confuses me, you know they fuckin' wanted to say Bowie too...)
Deviants
Devo (I guess. You know how everyone says there early stuff kind of is...)
Doctors of Madness
DMZ
Electric Prunes
Garland Jeffreys (kind of, more Stonesy raw, rebellious rock. See "Wild in the Streets", later covered by the Circle Jerks)
Hammersmith Gorillas (I love how it mentions Third World War but not these British protopunk rockers)
Hawkwind
Hollywood Brats
Hubble Bubble
The Human Beinz
Janie Jones
Kinks (odd how the list skipped over this one...)
Little Diesel
London SS
Love
Neon Boys
Neu! (See Can. Again more proto-post punk, but you see where I'm coming from)
Pagans
Pink Fairies
The Pretty Things
The Red Krayola
Richard Hell (Hello?!)
Screaming Lord Sutch
The Shaggs (Not the Shaggs Kurt Cobain liked, they're more proto-Alternative and Velvets-esque, this is a more garage/psych rock Shaggs, they're cover of "Farmer John" is fucking bone-chilling)
Silver Apples (more proto-alternative and experimental, but hey)
Soft Boys
Sparks
Suicide (in a sense)
Suzi Quatro
Swamp Rats (This one also confused me. Their covers of Sonics songs are like if Minor Threat covered Ramones; more awesome sounding)
Sweet
T-Rex (Confused me too...)
Television
Tomorrow
Wayne County and The Electric Chairs

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Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Jul 2010, 3:54pm

ImSoBoredWithTheUSA wrote:This list is heaven.

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Silent_Mi ... proto_punk

Any other bands/artists that can be classified as protopunk that the list forgot? I can think of a lot more...
Maybe a bit of a stretch but here it is:

Alice Cooper (You know how everyone says he was [his early stuff])
Be Bop Deluxe
The Birds (Along with The Troggs, they helped The Stooges and Iggy get the idea and courage to go for that strange, fucked up sound and attitude)
Blue Cheer (Though it does mention them a little, just not list them. And plus they're more proto-heavy metal/proto-hard rock)
Captain Beefheart (What the fuck? Way to not mention one of the most important artists that helped shape punk)
Can (Yeah, a little bit of a stretch and is more Krautrock/progressive rock-protopunk, proto-postpunk, proto-Alternative Rock and proto-indie rock, but hey the list labels Big Star - more power pop and proto-Alternative Rock, see The Replacements) - and fucking Futurism as protopunk)
Cherry Vanilla
Chrome
Count Five (I know you can pretty much say the whole "Nuggets" series, but they stand out a lot)
Cramps (Though it does mention Lux)
The Crazy World of Arthur Brown
David Bowie (How they mention Lou Reed [as protopunk] but not Bowie confuses me, you know they fuckin' wanted to say Bowie too...)
Death*
Deviants
Devo (I guess. You know how everyone says there early stuff kind of is...)
Doctors of Madness
DMZ
Electric Prunes
Garland Jeffreys (Kind of, more Stonesy raw, rebellious rock. See "Wild in the Streets", later covered by the Circle Jerks)
Hammersmith Gorillas (I love how it mentions Third World War but not these British protopunk rockers)
Hawkwind
Hollywood Brats
Hubble Bubble
The Human Beinz
Janie Jones
Kinks (Odd how the list skipped over this one...)
Left End (More hard rock, and proto-KISS, but could supposedly sometimes sounded like the Dolls)
Little Diesel
London SS
Love
Neon Boys
The Nerves*
Neu! (See Can. Again more proto-post punk, but you see where I'm coming from)
Pagans
Pink Fairies
The Plugz*
The Pretty Things
The Red Krayola
Richard Hell (Hello?!)
Screaming Lord Sutch
The Shaggs (Not the Shaggs Kurt Cobain liked, they're more proto-Alternative and Velvets-esque, this is a more garage/psych rock Shaggs, they're cover of "Farmer John" is fucking bone-chilling)
Silver Apples (More proto-alternative and experimental, but hey)
Soft Boys
Sparks*
Suicide (In a sense)
Suzi Quatro*
Swamp Rats (This one also confused me. Their covers of Sonics songs are like if Minor Threat covered Ramones; more awesome sounding)
Sweet*
T-Rex (Confused me too...)
Television
Tomorrow
The Tubes*
Wayne County and The Electric Chairs
*Added a few more

And also, call me crazy, but sometimes I prefer "Protopunk" and sleazy, snotty, primitive garage rock to what would be [later] classified as Punk Rock.

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Post by Flex » 21 Jul 2010, 3:59pm

The only proto-punk I like are the bands which are actually punk bands but went back in time to thwart the rise of the mole people and play a style of music 5-10 years before it should have existed on God's Green Earth.

I'll let you guess which bands I'm talking about.
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Post by Wolter » 21 Jul 2010, 4:16pm

Flex wrote:The only proto-punk I like are the bands which are actually punk bands but went back in time to thwart the rise of the mole people and play a style of music 5-10 years before it should have existed on God's Green Earth.

I'll let you guess which bands I'm talking about.
I don't have to guess.
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Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Jul 2010, 4:22pm

Also,

The Chosen Few (there's unbefuckinlievably several bands that go by this name, including early punk rock groups, but the one I mean is the garage rock group Ron Asheton was a member of)
The Doors (sigh, I suppose)
England's Glory (pre-Only Ones)
Gary Glitter
Howlin' Wolf (why not? Or any other howlin' bluesman for that matter)
Masters of the Backside (just like London SS, never released anything [yet] but should at least be mentioned since they mentioned numerous other early/pre-punk English bands)
Mott the Hoople
Mud
Nick Lowe
Paul Revere and The Raiders (the list mentions several seminal garage rock bands but strangely omits this one)
Radio Stars (key innovators in tying together glam and punk)
The Rationals
The Runaways (who by the away hugely owe a lot to Gary Glitter, not only did they cover his songs, but even their original songs use Glitter-esque riffs)
SRC
Wizzard

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Re: The Protopunk Thread

Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Jul 2010, 4:30pm

Isn't this list just awesome though?:
Like Side 3 Sandinista! type awesome. Nice and flavorful.



Oh, also Small Faces and the Standells.

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Post by Heston » 21 Jul 2010, 6:26pm

Mud and Gary Glitter are Protopunk?

WTF
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Post by eumaas » 21 Jul 2010, 6:29pm

Is this the thread where we list random bands?
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Post by Heston » 21 Jul 2010, 6:31pm

eumaas wrote:Is this the thread where we list random bands?
That's what I was thinking, a lot of these names are stretching it a bit.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Post by matedog » 21 Jul 2010, 6:31pm

Heston wrote:Mud and Gary Glitter are Protopunk?

WTF
I thought they were heavy metal.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Post by Heston » 21 Jul 2010, 6:32pm

matedog wrote:
Heston wrote:Mud and Gary Glitter are Protopunk?

WTF
I thought they were heavy metal.
Glam.

edit: I see what you did there.
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Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Jul 2010, 6:32pm

Heston wrote:
eumaas wrote:Is this the thread where we list random bands?
That's what I was thinking, a lot of these names are stretching it a bit.
I said before that most of it is a bit of a stretch.

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Post by Chuck Mangione » 21 Jul 2010, 6:33pm

Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:
Heston wrote:Mud and Gary Glitter are Protopunk?

WTF
I thought they were heavy metal.
Glam.
Most Glam is very protopunk.

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Post by Heston » 21 Jul 2010, 6:34pm

ImSoBoredWithTheUSA wrote:
Heston wrote:
eumaas wrote:Is this the thread where we list random bands?
That's what I was thinking, a lot of these names are stretching it a bit.
I said before that most of it is a bit of a stretch.
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So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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