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Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 18 Mar 2010, 11:34pm
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote:Ricky Gervais
Seona Dancing were shite.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 1:12am
by 101Walterton
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote:Ricky Gervais
Seona Dancing were shite.
I meant his solo career :scared: K.D. Lang would be a nobody if he hadn't turned to comedy.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 3:42am
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
101Walterton wrote:Ricky Gervais
Seona Dancing were shite.
I meant his solo career :scared: K.D. Lang would be a nobody if he hadn't turned to comedy.
Band members says the question?

Oh ok then Ken Dodd it is.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 9:37am
by Wolter
Marky Dread wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Kory wrote:
Wolter wrote:
eumaas wrote: I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.
Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.
Glen Matlock
Oops. Didn't mean to leave him off.
Bill Laswell and Afrika Bambaata deserve a mention here along with Leftfield. As a non musician it's fair to say John required the springboard.

Man, I don't know if I could even make a comprehensive list of everyone Lydon relied on to make his artistic statements.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 12:05pm
by Marky Dread
Wolter wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Kory wrote:
Wolter wrote: Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.
Glen Matlock
Oops. Didn't mean to leave him off.
Bill Laswell and Afrika Bambaata deserve a mention here along with Leftfield. As a non musician it's fair to say John required the springboard.

Man, I don't know if I could even make a comprehensive list of everyone Lydon relied on to make his artistic statements.
Ironic in the Swindle movie he was called...the collaborator.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 12:08pm
by Wolter
Marky Dread wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Kory wrote: Glen Matlock
Oops. Didn't mean to leave him off.
Bill Laswell and Afrika Bambaata deserve a mention here along with Leftfield. As a non musician it's fair to say John required the springboard.

Man, I don't know if I could even make a comprehensive list of everyone Lydon relied on to make his artistic statements.
Ironic in the Swindle movie he was called...the collaborator.
Coincidentally I had the same thought back when I posted the bolded part above.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 12:11pm
by Marky Dread
Wolter wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Wolter wrote:
Marky Dread wrote:
Wolter wrote: Oops. Didn't mean to leave him off.
Bill Laswell and Afrika Bambaata deserve a mention here along with Leftfield. As a non musician it's fair to say John required the springboard.

Man, I don't know if I could even make a comprehensive list of everyone Lydon relied on to make his artistic statements.
Ironic in the Swindle movie he was called...the collaborator.
Coincidentally I had the same thought back when I posted the bolded part above.
Malcom was right all along then, nah fuck him and his madame butterfly.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 12:21pm
by tepista
Oates

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 12:27pm
by Wolter
tepista wrote:Oates
What about the short lived supergroup, Garfunkel, Oates, Messina & Lisa?

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 12:35pm
by tepista
Wolter wrote:
tepista wrote:Oates
What about the short lived supergroup, Garfunkel, Oates, Messina & Lisa?
He was second fiddle in that too.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 12:57pm
by Flex
tepista wrote:
Wolter wrote:
tepista wrote:Oates
What about the short lived supergroup, Garfunkel, Oates, Messina & Lisa?
He was second fiddle in that too.
Messina is hands down the best out of that lot.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 1:02pm
by Wolter
Flex wrote:
tepista wrote:
Wolter wrote:
tepista wrote:Oates
What about the short lived supergroup, Garfunkel, Oates, Messina & Lisa?
He was second fiddle in that too.
Messina is hands down the best out of that lot.
Lisa's too Trad Jazz for your taste?

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 1:04pm
by Flex
Wolter wrote:
Flex wrote:
tepista wrote:
Wolter wrote:
tepista wrote:Oates
What about the short lived supergroup, Garfunkel, Oates, Messina & Lisa?
He was second fiddle in that too.
Messina is hands down the best out of that lot.
Lisa's too Trad Jazz for your taste?
Not authentic enough. :shifty:

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 3:35pm
by 101Walterton
Jerry Dammers.

Re: Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

Posted: 19 Mar 2010, 3:39pm
by tepista
Rat Patrol wrote:Pete Farndon.

Honeyman-Scott got the accolades in the original Pretenders and Chrysse always shoots for (with mixed results depending on who) some sort of top-shelf lead guitar pro when it's time for a new album/tour, but Farndon's loss took their punk attitude away. And they've never really gotten it back despite Chrysse's purist leanings because she's very disciplined about the quality control. Which is why they've been a good studio band but have been more workmanlike than mesmerizing live (whereas they used to be a force of nature). Farndon didn't give a shit about quality control...he just aired it out with max attitude and energy. He was a great visual draw if you look at old vids, the way he was sneering around and thrashing away, unkempt hair and usually some sort of statement-clothing like a flag tied around his head. Took a long time for Chrysse to realize it because of the open wounds about his drug spiral and because his theatrics made his playing inconsistent, but she's been frank in interviews the last few years that he provided more thrust and balls to the mix than she ever realized.
yeah he looked the coolest