Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

[Wolter]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.

Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.

[Kory]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.

Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.

Glen Matlock

[Wolter]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.

Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.

Glen Matlock

Oops. Didn't mean to leave him off.

[modskin]

Tony Gilkyson.. It's hard to fill Billy Zoom's shoes, but he did a damn fine job during his stint with X.

[Heston]

Vince Sheppard

[eumaas]

Mal Waldron. Not a flashy player by any means, yet he was equally comfortable in straight and avant settings. But nobody ever talks about him.

[Dr. Medulla]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.

Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.

For evidence of his need for capable collaborators, see Psycho's Path.

[Flex]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.

Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.

For evidence of his need for capable collaborators, see Psycho's Path.

Why would you bring up Lydon's greatest masterpiece if you're trying to illustrate his need for collaborators?

[Dr. Medulla]

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.

Agreed. He can claim he did it all himself, but he needed a Jonesy or a Wobble or a Levene or an Atkins to actually execute his ideas.

For evidence of his need for capable collaborators, see Psycho's Path.

Why would you bring up Lydon's greatest masterpiece if you're trying to illustrate his need for collaborators?

To prove that, like death and taxes, I'm always an idiot.

[101Walterton]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Look at it the other way, what did Foxton and Buckler do after The Jam you Freak.

[Flex]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Look at it the other way, what did Foxton and Buckler do after The Jam you Freak.

They released the same amount of good music as Weller?

[101Walterton]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Look at it the other way, what did Foxton and Buckler do after The Jam you Freak.

They released the same amount of good music as Weller?

Matedog wrong.

[eumaas]

101Walterton: NZ's No. 1 Style Council Fan

[Wolter]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Look at it the other way, what did Foxton and Buckler do after The Jam you Freak.

They released the same amount of good music as Weller?

Matedog wrong.

Well, you're not that wrong, 101W. But you are pretty wrong. Weller sure does suck, post-Jam.

[101Walterton]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Look at it the other way, what did Foxton and Buckler do after The Jam you Freak.

They released the same amount of good music as Weller?

Matedog wrong.

Well, you're not that wrong, 101W. But you are pretty wrong. Weller sure does suck, post-Jam.

Compared to The Jam most things look poor however Style Council had some great moments, Stanley Road, Wild Wood...