Band members who didn't get enough recognition.

[Heston]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

[eumaas]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Same goes for Lydon after Wobble and Levene.

[Flex]

I nominate Flex, a.k.a The Sixth Beatle.

[eumaas]

I nominate Flex, a.k.a The Sixth Beatle.

Did they leave you out of the Bible because you're black, Rufus?

[BostonBeaneater]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

I endorse this statement. Weller bores the piss out of me. You have a great formula that yields great rock song and you quit and start making jazzfart mellowrock.

[eumaas]

jazzfart mellowrock

Why invent a term when "dad rock" works perfectly?

[Wolter]

jazzfart mellowrock

Why invent a term when "dad rock" works perfectly?

Probably to keep us from confusing Welleresque Dadrock from Coldplayian Dadrock and Springsteenian Dadrock.

[eumaas]

jazzfart mellowrock

Why invent a term when "dad rock" works perfectly?

Probably to keep us from confusing Welleresque Dadrock from Coldplayian Dadrock and Springsteenian Dadrock.

"It's all [dad rock]."
- Vince

[Heston]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Same goes for Lydon after Wobble and Levene.

I like Album.

[eumaas]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Same goes for Lydon after Wobble and Levene.

I like Album.

You also ally yourself with a man who's admitted consuming shitty toilet paper.

[Heston]

Bruce Foxton and Rick Buckler.

The fact Weller got it horribly wrong after they parted company shouldn't be ignored.

Same goes for Lydon after Wobble and Levene.

I like Album.

You also ally yourself with a man who's admitted consuming shitty toilet paper.

Have you not figured I'm just Hoy's pretendy limey alter ego? He's had you all fooled for yeeeaaars.

[Wolter]

I actually kind of like Album, too. But it's not the PiL I love. It's the Johnny Lydon & the Hired Guns album.

[eumaas]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

[Wolter]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

[eumaas]

I don't really mind Lydon's fake-PiL/solo work, but the man, as important as he is, isn't top shelf talent even by punk standards. I realize this is a controversial statement but I think his artistic decline is evidence.

I think he used up whatever he had by about 1981 or so. 1976-1981 was a fucking hell of a run, but I bet a lot of that had to do with the caliber of his collaborators, as well.

I think 76-81 Lydon was himself an innovator, but limited as an artist.