What does Punk Rock mean to you?
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A classic example of punk turned bad: would you align yourself with this shit?
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I'd like it if it were two minutes long and Billie Joe Armstrong's vocals hadn't floated off into space. In this reality, it's an overlong Mott the Hoople rip-off from a band that until recently had a legitimate claim to being a fine rock 'n' roll outfit.Heston wrote:A classic example of punk turned bad: would you align yourself with this shit?
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Hang on, I can't see the Mott the Hoople connection, it sounds more like McFly to these ears.Silent Majority wrote:I'd like it if it were two minutes long and Billie Joe Armstrong's vocals hadn't floated off into space. In this reality, it's an overlong Mott the Hoople rip-off from a band that until recently had a legitimate claim to being a fine rock 'n' roll outfit.Heston wrote:A classic example of punk turned bad: would you align yourself with this shit?
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"Twen-ty one guuuuuns..."Heston wrote:Hang on, I can't see the Mott the Hoople connection, it sounds more like McFly to these ears.Silent Majority wrote:I'd like it if it were two minutes long and Billie Joe Armstrong's vocals hadn't floated off into space. In this reality, it's an overlong Mott the Hoople rip-off from a band that until recently had a legitimate claim to being a fine rock 'n' roll outfit.Heston wrote:A classic example of punk turned bad: would you align yourself with this shit?
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How did I miss that? It's still fuckin' horrible though.Silent Majority wrote:"Twen-ty one guuuuuns..."Heston wrote:Hang on, I can't see the Mott the Hoople connection, it sounds more like McFly to these ears.Silent Majority wrote:I'd like it if it were two minutes long and Billie Joe Armstrong's vocals hadn't floated off into space. In this reality, it's an overlong Mott the Hoople rip-off from a band that until recently had a legitimate claim to being a fine rock 'n' roll outfit.Heston wrote:A classic example of punk turned bad: would you align yourself with this shit?
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Re: What does Punk Rock mean to you?
I think Op Ivy is the last American punk band I fully endorse. I'll extend the courtesy to Rancid and early Green Day, but even those two, as great as they can be, are basically playing "in the genre," unlike Op Ivy which actually extended it a bit.
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I will argue that the American Idiot album to be a mostly worthwhile piece of work. By bringing in the 'Quick One While He's Away' influence to tracks like 'Jesus of Surburbia' and 'Homecoming', it's possible they brought something new to the table, but I don't know much about current punk bands, so someone else may well have done it first.eumaas wrote:I think Op Ivy is the last American punk band I fully endorse. I'll extend the courtesy to Rancid and early Green Day, but even those two, as great as they can be, are basically playing "in the genre," unlike Op Ivy which actually extended it a bit.
'Homecoming' is one of my favourite Green Day tracks, actually.
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Green Day have too many stylists to be real Punk.Silent Majority wrote:I will argue that the American Idiot album to be a mostly worthwhile piece of work. By bringing in the 'Quick One While He's Away' influence to tracks like 'Jesus of Surburbia' and 'Homecoming', it's possible they brought something new to the table, but I don't know much about current punk bands, so someone else may well have done it first.eumaas wrote:I think Op Ivy is the last American punk band I fully endorse. I'll extend the courtesy to Rancid and early Green Day, but even those two, as great as they can be, are basically playing "in the genre," unlike Op Ivy which actually extended it a bit.
'Homecoming' is one of my favourite Green Day tracks, actually.
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Re: What does Punk Rock mean to you?
A lot of people love American Idiot. I don't really like it. You may be right that it's a great work, but I'm just not interested enough to reexamine it.Silent Majority wrote:I will argue that the American Idiot album to be a mostly worthwhile piece of work. By bringing in the 'Quick One While He's Away' influence to tracks like 'Jesus of Surburbia' and 'Homecoming', it's possible they brought something new to the table, but I don't know much about current punk bands, so someone else may well have done it first.eumaas wrote:I think Op Ivy is the last American punk band I fully endorse. I'll extend the courtesy to Rancid and early Green Day, but even those two, as great as they can be, are basically playing "in the genre," unlike Op Ivy which actually extended it a bit.
'Homecoming' is one of my favourite Green Day tracks, actually.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
Re: What does Punk Rock mean to you?
70s punk observation:
British punk is a genre, New York punk is a period.
British punk is a genre, New York punk is a period.
I feel that there is a fascistic element, for example, in the Rolling Stones . . .
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
— Morton Feldman
I've studied the phenomenon of neo-provincialism in self-isolating online communities but this place takes the fucking cake.
— Clashy
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Granted, but at their best they're a very good power-pop band with punk influences.Heston wrote: Green Day have too many stylists to be real Punk.
There loads of different musical styles incorporated New York punk. Blondie, the Ramones, Television, Patti Smith. They don't really sound alike.eumaas wrote:70s punk observation:
British punk is a genre, New York punk is a period.
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When you think of the variety of New York punk of the mid- to late-70s, especially compared to London/the UK, it's as if NY skipped straight to post-punk.eumaas wrote:70s punk observation:
British punk is a genre, New York punk is a period.
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That would depend on which bands you listened to and how you define punk. Throbbing Gristle/Wire/Siouxsie & the Banshees and a whole wealth of lesser known bands don't fit the straight jacket music press definition. Then you can look at The Ramones/ Dead Boys/The Dictators etc and not class them with post punk.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Feb 2010, 7:27pmWhen you think of the variety of New York punk of the mid- to late-70s, especially compared to London/the UK, it's as if NY skipped straight to post-punk.eumaas wrote:70s punk observation:
British punk is a genre, New York punk is a period.
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And there's the nut crack.Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 10:24pmThat would depend on which bands you listened to and how you define punk. Throbbing Gristle/Wire/Siouxsie & the Banshees and a whole wealth of lesser known bands don't fit the straight jacket music press definition. Then you can look at The Ramones/ Dead Boys/The Dictators etc and not class them with post punk.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Feb 2010, 7:27pmWhen you think of the variety of New York punk of the mid- to late-70s, especially compared to London/the UK, it's as if NY skipped straight to post-punk.eumaas wrote:70s punk observation:
British punk is a genre, New York punk is a period.
"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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Marky gives a nice considered answer after 7 years!Marky Dread wrote: ↑03 Dec 2017, 10:24pmThat would depend on which bands you listened to and how you define punk. Throbbing Gristle/Wire/Siouxsie & the Banshees and a whole wealth of lesser known bands don't fit the straight jacket music press definition. Then you can look at The Ramones/ Dead Boys/The Dictators etc and not class them with post punk.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑20 Feb 2010, 7:27pmWhen you think of the variety of New York punk of the mid- to late-70s, especially compared to London/the UK, it's as if NY skipped straight to post-punk.eumaas wrote:70s punk observation:
British punk is a genre, New York punk is a period.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board