To the end of one side or the other changing their mind, no, that's rare. But if you participate respectfully and sincerely—as you have a track record for doing—it's always appreciated. It's about the process, not the conclusions. (Which is another way of saying you'd be a shit activist—they're necessarily about the ends.)101Walterton wrote:I'm tired of battling my corner over guns and drugs you cant argue with 'opinions' or 'views' over the internet it is never ending . I would be a shit activist , no energy for the fight.
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"Grab some wood, bub.'" - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft
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An end to ones means.Dr. Medulla wrote:To the end of one side or the other changing their mind, no, that's rare. But if you participate respectfully and sincerely—as you have a track record for doing—it's always appreciated. It's about the process, not the conclusions. (Which is another way of saying you'd be a shit activist—they're necessarily about the ends.)101Walterton wrote:I'm tired of battling my corner over guns and drugs you cant argue with 'opinions' or 'views' over the internet it is never ending . I would be a shit activist , no energy for the fight.
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I enjoy a debate I just find it frustrating on the internet especially in an open forum with many bit part players. You end up going round in circles.Dr. Medulla wrote:To the end of one side or the other changing their mind, no, that's rare. But if you participate respectfully and sincerely—as you have a track record for doing—it's always appreciated. It's about the process, not the conclusions. (Which is another way of saying you'd be a shit activist—they're necessarily about the ends.)101Walterton wrote:I'm tired of battling my corner over guns and drugs you cant argue with 'opinions' or 'views' over the internet it is never ending . I would be a shit activist , no energy for the fight.
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Depends on the participants and how respectful they are to an honest discussion. There are only a few people who are more interested in regurgitating talking points (now available in fancy poster form!) and acting like trolls. It also helps to have a moderator to keep things focused, but that's not the deal here. On the whole, however, those who choose to participate in more serious discussions around here are several cuts above the average.101Walterton wrote:I enjoy a debate I just find it frustrating on the internet especially in an open forum with many bit part players. You end up going round in circles.Dr. Medulla wrote:To the end of one side or the other changing their mind, no, that's rare. But if you participate respectfully and sincerely—as you have a track record for doing—it's always appreciated. It's about the process, not the conclusions. (Which is another way of saying you'd be a shit activist—they're necessarily about the ends.)101Walterton wrote:I'm tired of battling my corner over guns and drugs you cant argue with 'opinions' or 'views' over the internet it is never ending . I would be a shit activist , no energy for the fight.
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Never used any other online forums so I dont know however I have read a few (football / music)and have to wonder why some people bother taking the time and effort to post such bollocks.
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Yeah, I've never understood people who can't be bothered to do more than regurgitate talking point catchphrases and oh so very selectively respond to posts (i.e., ignore direct questions, but address minor points of a statement with prepackaged phrases). Do they think they're persuading anyone? If you're joining a conversation, don't you at least to have some self-respect to put some effort into honestly arguing your point?
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well, i mean...Clapton's version was lame, totally devoid of soul.
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I got soul but I'm not a soldier.mr. diem wrote:well, i mean...Clapton's version was lame, totally devoid of soul.
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In the end though--I think, hope--that if someone maybe looks at the issue a little deeper because they were exposed to an argument then it is good. The internet is the ultimate 2 edged sword--you can find almost anything to back up your argument --copy, paste--but some will take it to the next step and either/or learn more about what their arguing/see what the other side has to say.101Walterton wrote:
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101Walterton wrote:I'm tired of battling my corner over guns and drugs you cant argue with 'opinions' or 'views' over the internet it is never ending . I would be a shit activist , no energy for the fight.
To the end of one side or the other changing their mind, no, that's rare. But if you participate respectfully and sincerely—as you have a track record for doing—it's always appreciated. It's about the process, not the conclusions. (Which is another way of saying you'd be a shit activist—they're necessarily about the ends.)
I enjoy a debate I just find it frustrating on the internet especially in an open forum with many bit part players. You end up going round in circles.
Depends on the participants and how respectful they are to an honest discussion. There are only a few people who are more interested in regurgitating talking points (now available in fancy poster form!) and acting like trolls. It also helps to have a moderator to keep things focused, but that's not the deal here. On the whole, however, those who choose to participate in more serious discussions around here are several cuts above the average.
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like his version of the blues?mr. diem wrote:well, i mean...Clapton's version was lame, totally devoid of soul.
then don't go killing all the bees
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Or his version of living?dpwolf wrote:like his version of the blues?mr. diem wrote:well, i mean...Clapton's version was lame, totally devoid of soul.
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I swear to God Clapton was replaced with some kind of android after Cream.
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I can support that theory. Cream is good. Everything else he does makes me hate life.eumaas wrote:I swear to God Clapton was replaced with some kind of android after Cream.
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At least the Pauldroid was good for a few years before it started sucking hardcore.Wolter wrote:I can support that theory. Cream is good. Everything else he does makes me hate life.eumaas wrote:I swear to God Clapton was replaced with some kind of android after Cream.
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I bought Cream of Clapton back towards my end of high school Classic Rock phase. The Cream stuff is pretty original, but I still don't really like it that much. The Blind Faith and Derek and the Dominoes cuts (Presence of the Lord, Layla, and Bell Bottom Blues) were all quite good. The solo stuff is tolerable but not particularly noteworthy.Wolter wrote:I can support that theory. Cream is good. Everything else he does makes me hate life.eumaas wrote:I swear to God Clapton was replaced with some kind of android after Cream.
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