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Wolter wrote:
Heston wrote:
eumaas wrote:Kallous Kiss Kriticism.

Three Ks shouldn't have any unsavory connotations.
Korrect.

By the way, it's not often you Good Ol' Boys start wrangling with each other, I'm getting a perverse pleasure out of this. :shifty:

For the record, I believe every artist's game for a bit of a pisstake. I mean, we slam the Clash on here more than their detractors ever could.
Shut the hell up, limey! :shifty:
That's better, normal service is resumed....
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Inder, I think Sals is getting his revenge on us by stealing people's logins.
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Rat Patrol wrote:Inder, I think Sals is getting his revenge on us by stealing people's logins.
Wow. So Flex and I are like Sals to you then? Thanks a lot, Rattie.
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Dylan. Serious business.
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Rat Patrol wrote:Image
Dylan. Serious business.
:naughty:
Gee, I guess I'm overreacting when I get compared to one of the most reviled posters. Want to call me michaelt next? Or stepper? Sorry for spamming the boards.
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What we really need is BD to wander upon this thread and threaten to carve somebody up.

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eumaas wrote:
Rat Patrol wrote:Image
Dylan. Serious business.
:naughty:
Gee, I guess I'm overreacting when I get compared to one of the most reviled posters. Want to call me michaelt next? Or stepper? Sorry for spamming the boards.
Good God...one synapse fires with a Bob --> IMCT connection, I make a Beavis laugh to myself, and chuck out a half-formed joke while trying to process 6 pages of whatever this was fried to a crisp from extreme overwork. It was a stale fart, not directed at anyone. I'm retreating to the Drunk Russians at the Beach thread before I get electrocuted. :scared:
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This is usually the point where someone makes a "Bob Dylan" novelty account and we all have a good laugh about this thread.

And Hooky gets threatened with a steak knife.

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For the record, I've had time to sit on my ambivalence regarding certain Tom Waits material. It occurs to me that it's not "authenticity," but rather my own ability to relate to the songwriting, the thematic elements I'm biased toward. I tend to gravitate toward songs that I emotionally connect to, because that's a means of emotional release and catharsis for me. So that's probably why I'm a bit of a country music nerd - I'm a luddite about songwriting themes. Writing about long drives to nowhere, loneliness, alienation, religious doubt, hard drinking, hitting rock bottom - those are shortcuts to relatability for me. Which makes it really easy for me to like Hank Williams and makes it a little harder to warm up to a guy like Tom Waits. It's not an academic argument, just a statement of personal preference. And it's a pretty narrow-minded personal preference, I'll admit.

And recall, by the way, that Orphans, Mule Variations, and Bone Machine would all probably make my 20 favorite albums ever.
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Billy Joel wrote:For the record, I've had time to sit on my ambivalence regarding certain Tom Waits material. It occurs to me that it's not "authenticity," but rather my own ability to relate to the songwriting, the thematic elements I'm biased toward. I tend to gravitate toward songs that I emotionally connect to, because that's a means of emotional release and catharsis for me. So that's probably why I'm a bit of a country music nerd - I'm a luddite about songwriting themes. Writing about long drives to nowhere, loneliness, alienation, religious doubt, hard drinking, hitting rock bottom - those are shortcuts to relatability for me. Which makes it really easy for me to like Hank Williams and makes it a little harder to warm up to a guy like Tom Waits. It's not an academic argument, just a statement of personal preference. And it's a pretty narrow-minded personal preference, I'll admit.
I personally find a lot of Waits' material emotionally resonant, but I think your position is totally and utterly fair.
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Billy Joel wrote:For the record, I've had time to sit on my ambivalence regarding certain Tom Waits material. It occurs to me that it's not "authenticity," but rather my own ability to relate to the songwriting, the thematic elements I'm biased toward. I tend to gravitate toward songs that I emotionally connect to, because that's a means of emotional release and catharsis for me. So that's probably why I'm a bit of a country music nerd - I'm a luddite about songwriting themes. Writing about long drives to nowhere, loneliness, alienation, religious doubt, hard drinking, hitting rock bottom - those are shortcuts to relatability for me. Which makes it really easy for me to like Hank Williams and makes it a little harder to warm up to a guy like Tom Waits. It's not an academic argument, just a statement of personal preference. And it's a pretty narrow-minded personal preference, I'll admit.
I personally find a lot of Waits' material emotionally resonant, but I think your position is totally and utterly fair.
Ditto. My own "resonant" Waits record would be Alice.
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Heston wrote:Can anyone really understand how much the Kiss criticism hurts? Yet you stick the knife in day after day.
I enjoy playing both sides of the Kiss game—I still have childhood nostalgia for them, but I also realize that they're a pretty shitty group. Good at what they do, but what they do is shitty.
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YOU MADE ONE MISTAKE, LENNON, YOU DOUBLE CROSSED MIKE LOVE AND LEFT HIM ALIVE

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EDIT - Whoops, rattie already covered this elsewhere.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Interesting bit on the decline of historical significance of The Doors as part of an album review -
So I'm 13, and I'm slouching through Harvard Square on my way to get Pink Floyd boots at the used record store. I'm just starting to grow my hair long-- which never really worked out-- and I'm wearing a grey t-shirt sporting the hundred-yard-stare of Jim Morrison of the Doors. From across the street, a guy three times my age shouts: "Fuck! Yeah! The Doors!" And for that moment, we are brothers.

The Kids in the Hall's Bruce McCulloch argued that Doors fans are born, not made. But he ducks the question of why we're not making them anymore. Today, one of the first standard-bearers of rock is less hip than Journey. Let's review the case against the band: First we have Morrison himself, who's been blown into a caricature by his super-sexual persona, his wifty poetry, and his early death in a Paris bathtub. The music sounds like a weird cross between shit-kicking blues-rock and brain-spraining acid-jams, and it's easier to get your avant-garage fix from the Velvet Underground, your rock shaman verse from Patti Smith (or not at all), or your psychedelic extravagance from countless Nuggets bands. As dead 1960s rockers go, Jimi's legacy has left Janis and Jim in the dust. It may be a strange way to put it, but the problem with the Doors is that they were not efficient.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/137 ... -new-york/
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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