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Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:05pm
by Wolter
Flex wrote:
Wolter wrote:I actually dont think EC can sing very well. He's gotten better as a singer at sadly the same rate he's declined as a songwriter.
Okay, I'll spend half a decade posting about how EC is a shitty singer every time someone brings him up and I'm sure you'll never get sick of it.
I bet I would. Of course, if every time someone did it, I encouraged them by getting petulant, an experienced cage rattler like Beaneater might keep bringing it up to see what happens.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:06pm
by Flex
Wolter wrote:I still think both of your cries for more objectivity are tinged with your own subjective fandoms.
Ah, we don't even know ourselves well enough to check whether we think there's a legitimate grievance here. Thanks for the confidence in our own abilities to self-evaluate, buddy.

I'm signing out for a bit.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:07pm
by Flex
Wolter wrote:
Flex wrote:
Wolter wrote:I actually dont think EC can sing very well. He's gotten better as a singer at sadly the same rate he's declined as a songwriter.
Okay, I'll spend half a decade posting about how EC is a shitty singer every time someone brings him up and I'm sure you'll never get sick of it.
I bet I would. Of course, if every time someone did it, I encouraged them by getting petulant, an experienced cage rattler like Beaneater might keep bringing it up to see what happens.
I'll just point out that me and Gene didn't respond to Beaner's post, we responded to yours.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:09pm
by Wolter
Flex wrote:
Wolter wrote:I still think both of your cries for more objectivity are tinged with your own subjective fandoms.
Ah, we don't even know ourselves well enough to check whether we think there's a legitimate grievance here. Thanks for the confidence in our own abilities to self-evaluate, buddy.

I'm signing out for a bit.
I actually didn't mean to offend. At least not deeply. I was making the honest point that most people are less objective than they realize. I mean, how often do we give Hoy objective reasons why Springsteen is lame? Hell, I hardly ever give objective reasons why Bowie is God.

I apologize if that rubbed you the wrong way.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:09pm
by eumaas
I think all of our radioactive ovaries need to stop producing mutant babies right now. Let's sit down and remember that memes can't sing, and that without a lid, there is no T Rex.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:15pm
by Dr. Medulla
Wolter wrote:
Flex wrote:
Wolter wrote:I still think both of your cries for more objectivity are tinged with your own subjective fandoms.
Ah, we don't even know ourselves well enough to check whether we think there's a legitimate grievance here. Thanks for the confidence in our own abilities to self-evaluate, buddy.

I'm signing out for a bit.
I actually didn't mean to offend. At least not deeply. I was making the honest point that most people are less objective than they realize. I mean, how often do we give Hoy objective reasons why Springsteen is lame? Hell, I hardly ever give objective reasons why Bowie is God.

I apologize if that rubbed you the wrong way.
Man, when you've got the Christmas spirit goin', you're a jerk. ;)

(That said, in this Thought Police schism, I'm with 1st Det. Wolter on all this, but, like Wolter, no offence would ever be intended.)

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:18pm
by Wolter
Dr. Medulla wrote:Man, when you've got the Christmas spirit goin', you're a jerk. ;)
Well, I AM listening to Phil Spector's Christmas album. That ass.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:23pm
by eumaas
Dr. Medulla wrote:(That said, in this Thought Police schism, I'm with 1st Det. Wolter on all this, but, like Wolter, no offence would ever be intended.)
Flex and I might overreact, but I think that's a product of conditioning, not innate hysteria.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:28pm
by matedog
Wolter wrote: I mean, how often do we give Hoy objective reasons why Springsteen is lame?
Here ya go
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Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:29pm
by Wolter
matedog wrote:
Wolter wrote: I mean, how often do we give Hoy objective reasons why Springsteen is lame?
Here ya go
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Okay, that made me laugh out loud.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:34pm
by Dr. Medulla
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:(That said, in this Thought Police schism, I'm with 1st Det. Wolter on all this, but, like Wolter, no offence would ever be intended.)
Flex and I might overreact, but I think that's a product of conditioning, not innate hysteria.
That's fine, but it's not like there's much that's sacred in this community. No matter what people like, there's going to be people who will react with snark. Hoy and Springsteen get it far worse than any Dylan fans. So the defensiveness about Dylan seems to me like swimming against the current.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:36pm
by eumaas
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:(That said, in this Thought Police schism, I'm with 1st Det. Wolter on all this, but, like Wolter, no offence would ever be intended.)
Flex and I might overreact, but I think that's a product of conditioning, not innate hysteria.
That's fine, but it's not like there's much that's sacred in this community. No matter what people like, there's going to be people who will react with snark. Hoy and Springsteen get it far worse than any Dylan fans. So the defensiveness about Dylan seems to me like swimming against the current.
Defending Tom Waits against the authenticity duo might be swimming against the current too, but so what? You swim against the current with your fruit pie thing.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:40pm
by Dr. Medulla
eumaas wrote:Defending Tom Waits against the authenticity duo might be swimming against the current too, but so what? You swim against the current with your fruit pie thing.
I wouldn't describe the authenticity argument in those terms. There's no snark or kneejerk responses, as far as I can tell, but sincere beliefs about evaluating music. Unless I'm misunderstanding that discussion.

I have my position re. fruit pie, but it's not that important to me—it's for my own entertainment. I hope I don't come off as defensive re. pies, because it is just some degree of mock seriousness.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:41pm
by Olaf
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:(That said, in this Thought Police schism, I'm with 1st Det. Wolter on all this, but, like Wolter, no offence would ever be intended.)
Flex and I might overreact, but I think that's a product of conditioning, not innate hysteria.
That's fine, but it's not like there's much that's sacred in this community. No matter what people like, there's going to be people who will react with snark. Hoy and Springsteen get it far worse than any Dylan fans.
Remember the days of the Steak.

Re: The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 6:43pm
by eumaas
Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:Defending Tom Waits against the authenticity duo might be swimming against the current too, but so what? You swim against the current with your fruit pie thing.
I wouldn't describe the authenticity argument in those terms. There's no snark or kneejerk responses, as far as I can tell, but sincere beliefs about evaluating music. Unless I'm misunderstanding that discussion.

I have my position re. fruit pie, but it's not that important to me—it's for my own entertainment. I hope I don't come off as defensive re. pies, because it is just some degree of mock seriousness.
Relative to other concerns, this isn't important to me either.