The Mighty Musical Observations Thread

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:34am
Marky Dread wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:10am
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30 Jun 2018, 9:53am
does anybody know the Charlatans? My niece is on the cover of their latest EP
I dug their first couple albums back in the early 90s. On the Happy Mondays side of things.
They may have been around the same time as Happy Mondays but they do not sound anything like them. The Charlatans sound is based around a Hammond organ just another band lumped in with the so called "Baggy scene". They have survived because they were always good musicians.
*shrug* Those first couple albums sound a lot like Happy Mondays to me. Happy Mondays are more guitar, Charlatans more organ, but both sound like the commercial side of late 80s, early 90s house.
Your ears are made out of cloth. Have you even heard the first album by the Mondays? The sound isn't even close.
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I'd say the Charlatans probably sounded more like The Stone Roses than the Happy Mondays, the early stuff anyway. They had a few decent tracks, and Tim Burgess is a huge Clash fan so he's alright by me.
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Marky Dread wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:44am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:34am
Marky Dread wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:10am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 10:38am
eumaas wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 9:53am
does anybody know the Charlatans? My niece is on the cover of their latest EP
I dug their first couple albums back in the early 90s. On the Happy Mondays side of things.
They may have been around the same time as Happy Mondays but they do not sound anything like them. The Charlatans sound is based around a Hammond organ just another band lumped in with the so called "Baggy scene". They have survived because they were always good musicians.
*shrug* Those first couple albums sound a lot like Happy Mondays to me. Happy Mondays are more guitar, Charlatans more organ, but both sound like the commercial side of late 80s, early 90s house.
Your ears are made out of cloth. Have you even heard the first album by the Mondays? The sound isn't even close.
*shrug again* Guess I've got cloth ears.
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uhhh anyway that’s my niece on their new one
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 12:02pm
Marky Dread wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:44am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:34am
Marky Dread wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 11:10am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 10:38am


I dug their first couple albums back in the early 90s. On the Happy Mondays side of things.
They may have been around the same time as Happy Mondays but they do not sound anything like them. The Charlatans sound is based around a Hammond organ just another band lumped in with the so called "Baggy scene". They have survived because they were always good musicians.
*shrug* Those first couple albums sound a lot like Happy Mondays to me. Happy Mondays are more guitar, Charlatans more organ, but both sound like the commercial side of late 80s, early 90s house.
Your ears are made out of cloth. Have you even heard the first album by the Mondays? The sound isn't even close.
*shrug again* Guess I've got cloth ears.

In fairness it helps to know a bit about where The Charlatans came from musically that is. The early Charlatans sound was kind of nicked from another band called The Prisoners who were a Garage / Mod band who relied on that guitar/Hammond approach. The Charlatans get lumped in with the baggy bands purely through the dress code which soon changed. The early Deep Purple with their cover of Hush were another influence.

The Mondays were way more abstract musically and lyrically than the Charlatans.
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eumaas wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 12:11pm
uhhh anyway that’s my niece on their new one
Yeah now see what you've done coming on here bragging about your niece. Causing a cross culture war between the baggies and the not so baggies.

Seriously though Gene, that's very cool. What's the story behind her appearing on the cover? Friend of the band? A model?
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Marky Dread wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 2:01pm
eumaas wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 12:11pm
uhhh anyway that’s my niece on their new one
Yeah now see what you've done coming on here bragging about your niece. Causing a cross culture war between the baggies and the not so baggies.

Seriously though Gene, that's very cool. What's the story behind her appearing on the cover? Friend of the band? A model?
They saw it on my sister’s facebook I think
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eumaas wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 4:45pm
Marky Dread wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 2:01pm
eumaas wrote:
30 Jun 2018, 12:11pm
uhhh anyway that’s my niece on their new one
Yeah now see what you've done coming on here bragging about your niece. Causing a cross culture war between the baggies and the not so baggies.

Seriously though Gene, that's very cool. What's the story behind her appearing on the cover? Friend of the band? A model?
They saw it on my sister’s facebook I think
This one I presume?

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I like it.
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Great photo, I can see why the band wanted to use it. Very evocative.
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I heard Barenaked Ladies' "One Week" blaring over the PA in a Costco yesterday for the first time in like 15 years, and have never wanted to firebomb a Tim Hortons or airdrop a plague of diseased deer ticks on the Great White North so badly in my entire life. The "Chickity China the Chinese chicken. . ." verse has to be the worst lyric the English language has ever vomited up. X(

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So...I'm coaching my son's little league game last night and every time I took my position as 1st base coach I got to listen to a group of parents sitting in the stands talking about the prior night's DMB concert. A few things I gleaned:

1) One can never, ever call him Dave Matthews. He is always Dave. You can also not refer to it as a Dave Matthews Band concert. It's just Dave.

2) Dave has not replaced his violin player and the songs just don't sound the same anymore.

3) He played too many "new" songs that nobody knew (guess not many "real" Dave fans showed up.

4) Dave was better the last time they saw him live because "why did he have to change the sound of so many of this songs?"

5) Judging from the conversations I heard last night and from my Facebook feed on Sunday - I must have been the only white person aged 35-44 in the area who did not either a) attend the show or b) comment/post that they wished they had.

I try not to get too judgmental about music. One man's trash is another man's treasure - but...wow...it was almost too much to handle without opening my mouth.
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WestwayKid wrote:
03 Jul 2018, 6:38am
So...I'm coaching my son's little league game last night and every time I took my position as 1st base coach I got to listen to a group of parents sitting in the stands talking about the prior night's DMB concert. A few things I gleaned:

1) One can never, ever call him Dave Matthews. He is always Dave. You can also not refer to it as a Dave Matthews Band concert. It's just Dave.

2) Dave has not replaced his violin player and the songs just don't sound the same anymore.

3) He played too many "new" songs that nobody knew (guess not many "real" Dave fans showed up.

4) Dave was better the last time they saw him live because "why did he have to change the sound of so many of this songs?"

5) Judging from the conversations I heard last night and from my Facebook feed on Sunday - I must have been the only white person aged 35-44 in the area who did not either a) attend the show or b) comment/post that they wished they had.

I try not to get too judgmental about music. One man's trash is another man's treasure - but...wow...it was almost too much to handle without opening my mouth.
I'm glad I have no idea who Dave Matthews is or what he sounds like. A side benefit of being a Limey I suppose.
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Heston wrote:
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I'm glad I have no idea who Dave Matthews is or what he sounds like. A side benefit of being a Limey I suppose.
He's a cross between Kajagoogoo, Unmasked-era KISS, and Starship.
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WestwayKid wrote:
03 Jul 2018, 6:38am
So...I'm coaching my son's little league game last night and every time I took my position as 1st base coach I got to listen to a group of parents sitting in the stands talking about the prior night's DMB concert. A few things I gleaned:

1) One can never, ever call him Dave Matthews. He is always Dave. You can also not refer to it as a Dave Matthews Band concert. It's just Dave.

2) Dave has not replaced his violin player and the songs just don't sound the same anymore.

3) He played too many "new" songs that nobody knew (guess not many "real" Dave fans showed up.

4) Dave was better the last time they saw him live because "why did he have to change the sound of so many of this songs?"

5) Judging from the conversations I heard last night and from my Facebook feed on Sunday - I must have been the only white person aged 35-44 in the area who did not either a) attend the show or b) comment/post that they wished they had.

I try not to get too judgmental about music. One man's trash is another man's treasure - but...wow...it was almost too much to handle without opening my mouth.
You went to a soccer match in my godforsaken hometown with all my high school classmates who could think of nothing better to do with their dead-end lives than breed with each other?

"Dave" fans were insufferable enough at age 16. I can't imagine how poorly their fandom has aged now that they're all in their early-40's. :twitch:

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Rat Patrol wrote:
03 Jul 2018, 8:38am
"Dave" fans were insufferable enough at age 16. I can't imagine how poorly their fandom has aged now that their term in office is done. :twitch:
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