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eumaas wrote:
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eumaas wrote:Somebody rates Pinkerton too low on the relative Weezer scale, considering it's one of their two best. I guess it's not accessible enough and thus not fun. Fun is better.
Who rated it low on the relative Weezer scale?
6.9?
I rated blue, one of my favorite albums of all time a 7.0. Both are almost two whole points higher than the other albums reviewed. My rating system is far from perfect but based on the numbers above, I think it's clear that I rate those two albums highly on the "relative Weezer scale."
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Flex wrote:
Kory wrote:This is one of the rare times I'll disagree with you.

Edit: that was to Flex, not Hoy.
Fair enough. Which of Maladroit, Make Believe or Red do you think is better?
Maladroit for sure.
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OK so I have played The Blue Album all the way through. I like it, don't think it's great but enjoyable so far and this is only after one hearing my favourite track is "No One Else" followed by "Say It Ain't So. I did remember hearing "Buddy Holly" before and quite liked the humour. Obviously needs more time to bed- in but I will be investigating Weezer further. Thanks to eumaas for the tip and thanks Matedog for the reviews.
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Marky Dread wrote:OK so I have played The Blue Album all the way through. I like it, don't think it's great but enjoyable so far and this is only after one hearing my favourite track is "No One Else" followed by "Say It Ain't So. I did remember hearing "Buddy Holly" before and quite liked the humour. Obviously needs more time to bed- in but I will be investigating Weezer further. Thanks to eumaas for the tip and thanks Matedog for the reviews.
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matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:Somebody rates Pinkerton too low on the relative Weezer scale, considering it's one of their two best. I guess it's not accessible enough and thus not fun. Fun is better.
Who rated it low on the relative Weezer scale?
6.9?
I rated blue, one of my favorite albums of all time a 7.0. Both are almost two whole points higher than the other albums reviewed. My rating system is far from perfect but based on the numbers above, I think it's clear that I rate those two albums highly on the "relative Weezer scale."
Is it a scale of 0 to 7?
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eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:Somebody rates Pinkerton too low on the relative Weezer scale, considering it's one of their two best. I guess it's not accessible enough and thus not fun. Fun is better.
Who rated it low on the relative Weezer scale?
6.9?
I rated blue, one of my favorite albums of all time a 7.0. Both are almost two whole points higher than the other albums reviewed. My rating system is far from perfect but based on the numbers above, I think it's clear that I rate those two albums highly on the "relative Weezer scale."
Is it a scale of 0 to 7?
It better be.
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eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:Somebody rates Pinkerton too low on the relative Weezer scale, considering it's one of their two best. I guess it's not accessible enough and thus not fun. Fun is better.
Who rated it low on the relative Weezer scale?
6.9?
I rated blue, one of my favorite albums of all time a 7.0. Both are almost two whole points higher than the other albums reviewed. My rating system is far from perfect but based on the numbers above, I think it's clear that I rate those two albums highly on the "relative Weezer scale."
Is it a scale of 0 to 7?
It's not a perfect album and I detailed its strengths and flaws in my review. Granted, my track by track review doesn't take into account assessing the album as a whole as well as it could, but I think it is a fairly representative grade.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote: Who rated it low on the relative Weezer scale?
6.9?
I rated blue, one of my favorite albums of all time a 7.0. Both are almost two whole points higher than the other albums reviewed. My rating system is far from perfect but based on the numbers above, I think it's clear that I rate those two albums highly on the "relative Weezer scale."
Is it a scale of 0 to 7?
It's not a perfect album and I detailed its strengths and flaws in my review. Granted, my track by track review doesn't take into account assessing the album as a whole as well as it could, but I think it is a fairly representative grade.
Do you even like music? How could one of your favorite albums of all time only rate a 7?
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Kory wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote: 6.9?
I rated blue, one of my favorite albums of all time a 7.0. Both are almost two whole points higher than the other albums reviewed. My rating system is far from perfect but based on the numbers above, I think it's clear that I rate those two albums highly on the "relative Weezer scale."
Is it a scale of 0 to 7?
It's not a perfect album and I detailed its strengths and flaws in my review. Granted, my track by track review doesn't take into account assessing the album as a whole as well as it could, but I think it is a fairly representative grade.
Do you even like music? How could one of your favorite albums of all time only rate a 7?
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Kory wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote:
matedog wrote:
eumaas wrote: 6.9?
I rated blue, one of my favorite albums of all time a 7.0. Both are almost two whole points higher than the other albums reviewed. My rating system is far from perfect but based on the numbers above, I think it's clear that I rate those two albums highly on the "relative Weezer scale."
Is it a scale of 0 to 7?
It's not a perfect album and I detailed its strengths and flaws in my review. Granted, my track by track review doesn't take into account assessing the album as a whole as well as it could, but I think it is a fairly representative grade.
Do you even like music? How could one of your favorite albums of all time only rate a 7?
If you asked me off the top of my head, i'd say an 8 or a 9. But assessing each track, with a serious attempt to eschew nostalgia, I rate it a little lower than that. 7 is really good in my book.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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I thought the same exact thing as Kory; how can one of your favorite albums of all-time only be a 7 [out of 10?]

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ImSoBoredWithTheUSA wrote:I thought the same exact thing as Kory; how can one of your favorite albums of all-time only be a 7 [out of 10?]
From what I just said:
matedog wrote:If you asked me off the top of my head, i'd say an 8 or a 9. But assessing each track, with a serious attempt to eschew nostalgia, I rate it a little lower than that. 7 is really good in my book.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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I tend to think of albums as having two ratings. One is vis-a-vis music in general or its genre (which would be the absolute scale), and the other is vis-a-vis the total artist output. The latter is what I mean by a relative scale. For example, GEER rates as 10 on the relative scale, but would not rate a 10 on the absolute scale as there are albums I think are superior.

I guess Hoy is rating it on the absolute scale.
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eumaas wrote:I tend to think of albums as having two ratings. One is vis-a-vis music in general or its genre (which would be the absolute scale), and the other is vis-a-vis the total artist output. The latter is what I mean by a relative scale. For example, GEER rates as 10 on the relative scale, but would not rate a 10 on the absolute scale as there are albums I think are superior.

I guess Hoy is rating it on the absolute scale.
Yeah I guess so. I meant I kept to the "relative Weezer scale" thing earlier because I was referring to the relation of ratings of the albums. Basically I think the first two albums are significantly better than the last, jesus, five. But yeah, that's not an absolute scale. A relative scale would be a lot harder when doing a song by song comparison as well.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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eumaas wrote:I tend to think of albums as having two ratings. One is vis-a-vis music in general or its genre (which would be the absolute scale), and the other is vis-a-vis the total artist output. The latter is what I mean by a relative scale. For example, GEER rates as 10 on the relative scale, but would not rate a 10 on the absolute scale as there are albums I think are superior.

I guess Hoy is rating it on the absolute scale.
How about vis-a-vis the albums in one's collection?
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