The David Bowie is God Thread
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This will strike some as a bit of heresy, but for one of the greatest (IMO) albums ever recorded - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - the track "It Ain't Easy" isn't a very good song, so why'd they put it on the album when they had so many other far superior songs recorded to choose from?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?

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Re: The David Bowie is God Thread
Don't forget Sweet Head too, what a revelation that Rykodisc reissue was, there were plenty of great songs left off. Maybe Tony Visconti would have some insight
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I just reread this entire thread because I am at work and what else should I be doing? Anyway, this thread is the god of all IMCT threads.
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Me and my buddy Jim were driving with my wife listening to the CD and when "It Ain't Easy" came on my wife said "I like this song" and Jim and I just burst into laughter and always tease her that her favorite song is "It Ain't Easy" which is clearly the worst song on the record. That was 10 years ago, and we brought it up again as recently as last month. Even so, I like the song a lot, it's just the worst on the record. Like being the ugliest Gabor sister.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑20 Mar 2017, 11:13pmThis will strike some as a bit of heresy, but for one of the greatest (IMO) albums ever recorded - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - the track "It Ain't Easy" isn't a very good song, so why'd they put it on the album when they had so many other far superior songs recorded to choose from?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?
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Re: The David Bowie is God Thread
Yeah, it's definitely the worst song on the album, but I still like it.tepista wrote: ↑21 Mar 2017, 3:32pmMe and my buddy Jim were driving with my wife listening to the CD and when "It Ain't Easy" came on my wife said "I like this song" and Jim and I just burst into laughter and always tease her that her favorite song is "It Ain't Easy" which is clearly the worst song on the record. That was 10 years ago, and we brought it up again as recently as last month. Even so, I like the song a lot, it's just the worst on the record. Like being the ugliest Gabor sister.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑20 Mar 2017, 11:13pmThis will strike some as a bit of heresy, but for one of the greatest (IMO) albums ever recorded - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - the track "It Ain't Easy" isn't a very good song, so why'd they put it on the album when they had so many other far superior songs recorded to choose from?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?
The honest truth is that there were enough quality outtakes/live songs from that session to make a bonus disc that is better than 99% of rock albums out there. It's astonishing how fired up Bowie was in that period.
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All those you mentioned are better tracks. I think "It Ain't Easy" is an OK song I think Bowie just liked the original and the idea of a cover version. RCA would never have let "Sweet Head" make the cut. "Around and Around" ('Round and 'Round) was on the original track list but got dropped once Bowie had recorded "Sufragette City" which is plenty Chuck Berry sounding. The track "Starman" replaced 'Round and 'Round from the original running order. Bowie also mentioned in 2002 a song called "Blackhole Kids" which he said should of been on Ziggy, no idea if it was ever recorded.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑20 Mar 2017, 11:13pmThis will strike some as a bit of heresy, but for one of the greatest (IMO) albums ever recorded - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - the track "It Ain't Easy" isn't a very good song, so why'd they put it on the album when they had so many other far superior songs recorded to choose from?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?
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I wonder if Suffragette City became available for the album after Mott turned it down.Marky Dread wrote: ↑21 Mar 2017, 6:46pmAll those you mentioned are better tracks. I think "It Ain't Easy" is an OK song I think Bowie just liked the original and the idea of a cover version. RCA would never have let "Sweet Head" make the cut. "Around and Around" ('Round and 'Round) was on the original track list but got dropped once Bowie had recorded "Sufragette City" which is plenty Chuck Berry sounding. The track "Starman" replaced 'Round and 'Round from the original running order. Bowie also mentioned in 2002 a song called "Blackhole Kids" which he said should of been on Ziggy, no idea if it was ever recorded.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑20 Mar 2017, 11:13pmThis will strike some as a bit of heresy, but for one of the greatest (IMO) albums ever recorded - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - the track "It Ain't Easy" isn't a very good song, so why'd they put it on the album when they had so many other far superior songs recorded to choose from?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?
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I think it would be pretty fair to assume that.Inder wrote: ↑21 Mar 2017, 10:25pmI wonder if Suffragette City became available for the album after Mott turned it down.Marky Dread wrote: ↑21 Mar 2017, 6:46pmAll those you mentioned are better tracks. I think "It Ain't Easy" is an OK song I think Bowie just liked the original and the idea of a cover version. RCA would never have let "Sweet Head" make the cut. "Around and Around" ('Round and 'Round) was on the original track list but got dropped once Bowie had recorded "Sufragette City" which is plenty Chuck Berry sounding. The track "Starman" replaced 'Round and 'Round from the original running order. Bowie also mentioned in 2002 a song called "Blackhole Kids" which he said should of been on Ziggy, no idea if it was ever recorded.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑20 Mar 2017, 11:13pmThis will strike some as a bit of heresy, but for one of the greatest (IMO) albums ever recorded - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - the track "It Ain't Easy" isn't a very good song, so why'd they put it on the album when they had so many other far superior songs recorded to choose from?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?
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I think Moonage Daydream could very well be the greatest song ever recorded.
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I cannot argue with this.
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Sounds legit.
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Really, is anything?
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Some here too, from the same site: http://www.5years.com/iaeasy.htmMarky Dread wrote: ↑21 Mar 2017, 6:46pmAll those you mentioned are better tracks. I think "It Ain't Easy" is an OK song I think Bowie just liked the original and the idea of a cover version. RCA would never have let "Sweet Head" make the cut. "Around and Around" ('Round and 'Round) was on the original track list but got dropped once Bowie had recorded "Sufragette City" which is plenty Chuck Berry sounding. The track "Starman" replaced 'Round and 'Round from the original running order. Bowie also mentioned in 2002 a song called "Blackhole Kids" which he said should of been on Ziggy, no idea if it was ever recorded.muppet hi fi wrote: ↑20 Mar 2017, 11:13pmThis will strike some as a bit of heresy, but for one of the greatest (IMO) albums ever recorded - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars - the track "It Ain't Easy" isn't a very good song, so why'd they put it on the album when they had so many other far superior songs recorded to choose from?
"Velvet Goldmine" is the obvious choice. "Holy Holy" is a great song as well. And if they felt like they really needed a cover song, they had an excellent take of Chuck's "Around and Around". Or they could have used "Amsterdam" or recorded "My Death". They could have recorded "I'm Waiting For the Man" or "White Light/White Heat", too. Or why not tighten up "Sweet Head"?
Thoughts?
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