We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Heston » 26 Jul 2016, 7:16pm

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So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Dr. Medulla » 26 Jul 2016, 7:25pm

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Marky Dread » 26 Jul 2016, 9:26pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:The world is awful and you are its prophet.
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by matedog » 01 Sep 2016, 10:28am

Still216 posted this to Heston's fb today: http://www.gq.com/story/oral-history-we ... f-all-time
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by matedog » 01 Sep 2016, 11:00am

matedog wrote:Still216 posted this to Heston's fb today: http://www.gq.com/story/oral-history-we ... f-all-time
Chaquico: The song says we built this city on live music, let's bring it back—but the music is computerized. It complains about techno pop, but it's a techno-pop song. It exemplifies the problem it's protesting.

Thomas: Anybody who says the lyrics are dumb hasn't taken the time to digest the verses. I don't think there's anything dumb about “looking for America, crawling through your schools.”

Page: Chordally and harmonically it's—this isn't an ego thing—it's incredibly skillful.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Wolter » 01 Sep 2016, 2:50pm

Thomas: When the song went to No. 1, I said to Bernie, “More than ever, people are gonna ask what ‘Marconi plays the mamba’ means.” He said, “I have no fucking idea, mate.”
Page: Hmm. Marconi was the first one to send music across the ocean. I saw “We Built This City” as saying stop the corporations, we need to play music.
Thomas: Bernie didn't say “mambo,” he said “mamba,” which is a snake. Marconi created the radio. Maybe Bernie meant to say “mambo.” Maybe it means: If you don't like this music, some really angry snakes are gonna come out of the speaker
Stephen Holden (critic; ‘The New York Times,’ 1985): A compendium of strutting pop-rock clichés, Knee Deep in the Hoopla represents the '80s equivalent of almost everything the original Jefferson Airplane stood against—conformity, conservatism, and a slavish adherence to formula.
God, what a fucking terrible song.
Chaquico: I do the song with my band—sometimes as a full-on power trio, like if Cream or Jimi Hendrix were to do it, but we also do a reggae version of it, when we're in the mood. Imagine Bob Marley singing “We Built This City.”
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Sep 2016, 3:25pm

matedog wrote:Thomas: Anybody who says the lyrics are dumb hasn't taken the time to digest the verses. I don't think there's anything dumb about “looking for America, crawling through your schools.”
Translation: Anyone who doesn't realize our brilliance must be a moron.

Yeah, the rationale of every self-deluded genius ever.
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Post by JennyB » 01 Sep 2016, 3:47pm

I want to know who the 80's singer who called it "pussy" music is. Any guesses?
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Post by Wolter » 01 Sep 2016, 3:47pm

JennyB wrote:I want to know who the 80's singer who called it "pussy" music is. Any guesses?
David Lee Roth?
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by JennyB » 01 Sep 2016, 3:52pm

Wolter wrote:
JennyB wrote:I want to know who the 80's singer who called it "pussy" music is. Any guesses?
David Lee Roth?
I thought about him too. What if it was someone with an already "fey" image like Dave Gahan/Martin Gore or Morrissey? :)
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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Heston » 01 Sep 2016, 4:08pm

matedog wrote:Chaquico: The song says we built this city on live music, let's bring it back—but the music is computerized. It complains about techno pop, but it's a techno-pop song. It exemplifies the problem it's protesting.
Another dumbfuck totally missing the irony and subversion of the song.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by matedog » 01 Sep 2016, 4:25pm

Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:Chaquico: The song says we built this city on live music, let's bring it back—but the music is computerized. It complains about techno pop, but it's a techno-pop song. It exemplifies the problem it's protesting.
Another dumbfuck totally missing the irony and subversion of the song.
I don't think he necessarily doesn't see the irony/subversion. In fact, I think he's highlighting it. :cool:
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Heston » 01 Sep 2016, 4:29pm

matedog wrote:
Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:Chaquico: The song says we built this city on live music, let's bring it back—but the music is computerized. It complains about techno pop, but it's a techno-pop song. It exemplifies the problem it's protesting.
Another dumbfuck totally missing the irony and subversion of the song.
I don't think he necessarily doesn't see the irony/subversion. In fact, I think he's highlighting it. :cool:
Ahhh, I see. I've missed his intention due to just seeing it written down. Sorry Chaquico, you aren't a dumbfuck, you are a very wise man.
So what does Marconi playing the mamba mean? "Marconi" is referring to the radio itself. It plays a deadly snake. The snake - the mamba - is slithering from the speakers. Ready to kill greedy corporations. Ready to free the world of all that is evil, and to leave behind only the youthful idealism encompassed by the tenets of rock and roll.

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Re: We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

Post by Wolter » 01 Sep 2016, 5:54pm

Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:
Heston wrote:
matedog wrote:Chaquico: The song says we built this city on live music, let's bring it back—but the music is computerized. It complains about techno pop, but it's a techno-pop song. It exemplifies the problem it's protesting.
Another dumbfuck totally missing the irony and subversion of the song.
I don't think he necessarily doesn't see the irony/subversion. In fact, I think he's highlighting it. :cool:
Ahhh, I see. I've missed his intention due to just seeing it written down. Sorry Chaquico, you aren't a dumbfuck, you are a very wise man.
He says a lot of equally dumb things throughout that, so of course you'd praise him.
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