We Built This City On Rock and Roll appreciation thread

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Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:21pm
Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
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Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
Also, the "defense" is largely just "even the worst songs can have an interesting element or two" which, sure.
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The stuff about the pedal point and build-up of tension is spot on. When it reaches the "Marconi" line it explodes like a shuddering orgasm. Glad to see a musical expert agrees with me.
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Flex wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:35pm
Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
Also, the "defense" is largely just "even the worst songs can have an interesting element or two" which, sure.
Plenty of clever musical bits in Steely Dan and any given shitty prog album, but the songs themselves are largely trash.
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Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:21pm
Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
It was considered a contender for worst song of the decade even as it was charting. The Hestonian defenders are the hipster revisionists.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:51pm
Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:21pm
Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
It was considered a contender for worst song of the decade even as it was charting. The Hestonian defenders are the hipster revisionists.
I know I hated it from day one.
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Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:21pm
Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
Exactly Id dare say all of these songs while getting a lot of hype amd promotion were viscerally hated by a large number of the human population that heard them. The fact that came to be more universally hated later on was just a matter of more people coming to their senses and/or the fact if a pile of shit is presented properly will be valued by some people.

This line really stuck out to me:
It was a totally well-assembled song. It had a verse and a bridge and a chorus
Ok perhaps. But that doesn't defacto make it good or redeemable

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I'll admit to enjoying "Barbie Girl" as really goofy bubblegum kitsch.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 5:34pm
I'll admit to enjoying "Barbie Girl" as really goofy bubblegum kitsch.
Me too, and the lyrics are quite dark as alluded to in the article.
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Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 5:38pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 5:34pm
I'll admit to enjoying "Barbie Girl" as really goofy bubblegum kitsch.
Me too, and the lyrics are quite dark as alluded to in the article.
I wouldn't go so far as to call them dark, but they can be interpreted more wryly, almost like a snarky response to Madonna's “Material Girl.”
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Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:21pm
Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
I hated it even before it was a demo.
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Marky Dread wrote:
09 May 2018, 6:00pm
Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:21pm
Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
I hated it even before it was a demo.
I've been hating WBTCORAR since before you were even BORN, son.
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JennyB wrote:
10 May 2018, 10:08am
Marky Dread wrote:
09 May 2018, 6:00pm
Wolter wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:23pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:21pm
Heston wrote:
09 May 2018, 3:13pm
Me and Inder were right all along...

https://www.urbo.com/content/examining- ... -3186-demo
No, you weren't, Lord Wrongingham.
The thesis presented in the article that WBTCORAR has only been hated since an article in the aughts is flawed as fuck. It was vocally hated by a lot of people from day one.
I hated it even before it was a demo.
I've been hating WBTCORAR since before you were even BORN, son.
Thanks mum. :kiss:
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