Punk … for credit

[Dr. Medulla]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

[Kory]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

[Flex]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

Hmmm, or maybe they're extremely right and correct and deserve As.

[Dr. Medulla]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

They're earning surprisingly low marks overall, but not because of that. Well, yes, because of that—they're not reading what's presented, only drawing from what seems familiar. It betrays an unconscious resistance to learn, to avoid absorbing new ideas.

[Dr. Medulla]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

Hmmm, or maybe they're extremely right and correct and deserve As.

I wonder if I can enroll you so that I can give you an F.

[revbob]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

They're earning surprisingly low marks overall, but not because of that. Well, yes, because of that—they're not reading what's presented, only drawing from what seems familiar. It betrays an unconscious resistance to learn, to avoid absorbing new ideas.

What would they even be familiar with?

[Flex]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

Hmmm, or maybe they're extremely right and correct and deserve As.

I wonder if I can enroll you so that I can give you an F.

"From D. Boon to Dave Matthews: A New Synthesis"

[Kory]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

Hmmm, or maybe they're extremely right and correct and deserve As.

I wonder if I can enroll you so that I can give you an F.

"From D. Boon to Dave Matthews: A New Synthesis"

I'd read it.

[Dr. Medulla]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

They're earning surprisingly low marks overall, but not because of that. Well, yes, because of that—they're not reading what's presented, only drawing from what seems familiar. It betrays an unconscious resistance to learn, to avoid absorbing new ideas.

What would they even be familiar with?

In essence, that Quincy episode. Not it specifically, but the idea of fast, loud music and kids beating the fuck out of each other and engaging in property crime. The stereotypes.

[Dr. Medulla]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

They are wrong. Give them all F's, please.

Hmmm, or maybe they're extremely right and correct and deserve As.

I wonder if I can enroll you so that I can give you an F.

"From D. Boon to Dave Matthews: A New Synthesis"

See me after class. And call your parents.

[Sparky]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

Which is really a shame, because from my recollection that's when all the fun stopped and all the ex-football jocks jumped on the punk train.

[Dr. Medulla]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

Which is really a shame, because from my recollection that's when all the fun stopped and all the ex-football jocks jumped on the punk train.

That's exactly my perspective. Early LA punk—the Hollywood scene—was a beautiful collection of weirdos who didn't really share an aesthetic, just an interest in diverse expression. Kind of like the original NYC scene. But hardcore drove out the diversity in favour of rules and tests for who was Punk™. Hardcore is when the fans hijacked things and started gatekeeping. Hence my mantra: fans ruin everything.

[Sparky]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

Which is really a shame, because from my recollection that's when all the fun stopped and all the ex-football jocks jumped on the punk train.

That's exactly my perspective. Early LA punk—the Hollywood scene—was a beautiful collection of weirdos who didn't really share an aesthetic, just an interest in diverse expression. Kind of like the original NYC scene. But hardcore drove out the diversity in favour of rules and tests for who was Punk™. Hardcore is when the fans hijacked things and started gatekeeping. Hence my mantra: fans ruin everything.

100% true!

[Dr. Medulla]

(I should add, tho, that hardcore has offered far more intellectual meat than other forms of punk except, perhaps, Riot Grrrl.)

[gkbill]

I'm grading reviews of a book on SoCal punk, covering both the original Hollywood scene and Huntington Beach hardcore that followed. What's interesting to me is that people almost completely ignore the original scene—X, Germs, The Go-Go's, Screamers—in favour of hardcore. Given that these students barely know anything about punk, I think they're going off notoriety and stereotypes, believing hardcore is the "authentic" form.

Which is really a shame, because from my recollection that's when all the fun stopped and all the ex-football jocks jumped on the punk train.

That's exactly my perspective. Early LA punk—the Hollywood scene—was a beautiful collection of weirdos who didn't really share an aesthetic, just an interest in diverse expression. Kind of like the original NYC scene. But hardcore drove out the diversity in favour of rules and tests for who was Punk™. Hardcore is when the fans hijacked things and started gatekeeping. Hence my mantra: fans ruin everything.

100% true!

Hello,

I'm kind of the same train of thought but perhaps with a different spin. It was those in search of an identity to adopt to become cool rather than those who truly shared the values of the ethos (that reads really pretentious). The rules for hardcore seem pretty simple - I'm not sure as I'm not a fan - and the people I'm thinking of weren't really interested in the values of hardcore - rather than the simple behaviors/fashion and belonging to a cool/extreme group - basically posers.