"Classic" 90's songs you can't stand!!!

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JennyB wrote:
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Wasn't grunge just heavy rock with shit clothes?
Very bland heavy rock. Perhaps more bland than you could ever imagine.
Speaking of bland, it kind of blows my mind that Pearl Jam are still selling out very large venues.
I absolutely LOATHE Pearl Jam. I get why people liked Nirvana. I get why people liked Soundgarden. I love Alice in Chains (Dirt is a masterpiece). But Pearl Jam? They are like the Bad Company or some shit like that of the 90s. They're just a boring classic rock band who happened to wear flannel and come from Seattle. And Eddie Vedder has a grating voice.
They're the next generation of Rush. Mediocre personified, yet inspiring inexplicable devotion from fans.
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matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:30pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:16pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 10:47am
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matedog wrote:
28 Oct 2019, 6:37pm


So...it's an Oasis song.
They were massively overrated but their first 2 albums were decent.
It's very interesting to see the US vs UK perspective. For me, Oasis had a couple songs I heard a bit on the radio in the mid-90's - Live Forever, Wonderwall, Champagne, Don't Look Back. But they were never huge here. Consequently, I think they were a fine little band with a handful of perfectly good songs I didn't mind hearing on the radio on occasion.
Why do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
Because that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).

I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
Fair enough just sounds like an odd description.
What’s the Story got to #4 on the US album charts.

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:42pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:36pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:30pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:16pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 10:47am

It's very interesting to see the US vs UK perspective. For me, Oasis had a couple songs I heard a bit on the radio in the mid-90's - Live Forever, Wonderwall, Champagne, Don't Look Back. But they were never huge here. Consequently, I think they were a fine little band with a handful of perfectly good songs I didn't mind hearing on the radio on occasion.
Why do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
Because that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).

I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
The only people I knew in the 90s that were huge oasis fans were the kind of people who spent a single semester abroad and came back with a Guy-Richie-era Madonna accent.
My roommate at the time hopped aboard because, he said, Lars from Metallica endorsed them.
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101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:43pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:30pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:16pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 10:47am
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29 Oct 2019, 2:35am


They were massively overrated but their first 2 albums were decent.
It's very interesting to see the US vs UK perspective. For me, Oasis had a couple songs I heard a bit on the radio in the mid-90's - Live Forever, Wonderwall, Champagne, Don't Look Back. But they were never huge here. Consequently, I think they were a fine little band with a handful of perfectly good songs I didn't mind hearing on the radio on occasion.
Why do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
Because that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).

I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
Fair enough just sounds like an odd description.
What’s the Story got to #4 on the US album charts.
I can corroborate Matey's assessment—they were basically a blip here.
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Kory wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 3:00pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:43pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:30pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:16pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 10:47am

It's very interesting to see the US vs UK perspective. For me, Oasis had a couple songs I heard a bit on the radio in the mid-90's - Live Forever, Wonderwall, Champagne, Don't Look Back. But they were never huge here. Consequently, I think they were a fine little band with a handful of perfectly good songs I didn't mind hearing on the radio on occasion.
Why do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
Because that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).

I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
Fair enough just sounds like an odd description.
What’s the Story got to #4 on the US album charts.
I can corroborate Matey's assessment—they were basically a blip here.
63rd best selling album of the 90’s in US.
I get they didn’t have the same commercial exposure in the US as UK but still one of the worlds best selling bands.

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Again: oasis fans here were a cult thing. Large cult, but they barely left an impact outside of it.
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Here's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Here's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
The UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.
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Silent Majority wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 3:55pm
Here's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
The UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.
Really? Is this a recent development? I recall reading as recently as five years ago the segregation by nationality on both sides of the Atlantic.
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101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:43pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:30pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:16pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 10:47am
BitterTom wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:35am


They were massively overrated but their first 2 albums were decent.
It's very interesting to see the US vs UK perspective. For me, Oasis had a couple songs I heard a bit on the radio in the mid-90's - Live Forever, Wonderwall, Champagne, Don't Look Back. But they were never huge here. Consequently, I think they were a fine little band with a handful of perfectly good songs I didn't mind hearing on the radio on occasion.
Why do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
Because that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).

I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
Fair enough just sounds like an odd description.
What’s the Story got to #4 on the US album charts.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billbo ... 1996-02-24
They were just ahead of Bush and President of the United States of America. All three bands seemed similarly popular at the time.
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matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:06pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:43pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:30pm
101Walterton wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 2:16pm
matedog wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 10:47am

It's very interesting to see the US vs UK perspective. For me, Oasis had a couple songs I heard a bit on the radio in the mid-90's - Live Forever, Wonderwall, Champagne, Don't Look Back. But they were never huge here. Consequently, I think they were a fine little band with a handful of perfectly good songs I didn't mind hearing on the radio on occasion.
Why do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
Because that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).

I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
Fair enough just sounds like an odd description.
What’s the Story got to #4 on the US album charts.
https://www.billboard.com/charts/billbo ... 1996-02-24
They were just ahead of Bush and President of the United States of America. All three bands seemed similarly popular at the time.
Oh I heard the other two a lot more often.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:05pm
Silent Majority wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 3:55pm
Here's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
The UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.
Really? Is this a recent development? I recall reading as recently as five years ago the segregation by nationality on both sides of the Atlantic.
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Wolter wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:05pm
Silent Majority wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 3:55pm
Here's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
The UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.
Really? Is this a recent development? I recall reading as recently as five years ago the segregation by nationality on both sides of the Atlantic.
Wrap it up boys: we won.
If you consider this a victory. Then you are more than welcome to it. So in reality you lost and in fact we all lost. ;)
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Marky Dread wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:12pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:05pm
Silent Majority wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:03pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 3:55pm
Here's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
The UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.
Really? Is this a recent development? I recall reading as recently as five years ago the segregation by nationality on both sides of the Atlantic.
Wrap it up boys: we won.
If you consider this a victory. Then you are more than welcome to it. So in reality you lost and in fact we all lost. ;)
Oh I was joking. I haven’t given a shit about charts in decades.
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Wolter wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:17pm
Marky Dread wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:12pm
Wolter wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:07pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:05pm
Silent Majority wrote:
29 Oct 2019, 4:03pm


The UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.
Really? Is this a recent development? I recall reading as recently as five years ago the segregation by nationality on both sides of the Atlantic.
Wrap it up boys: we won.
If you consider this a victory. Then you are more than welcome to it. So in reality you lost and in fact we all lost. ;)
Oh I was joking. I haven’t given a shit about charts in decades.
Thank fuck for that. :mrgreen:
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