Yeah I get it I just disagree that one of the best selling bands in the world isn’t a ‘little band’ because they weren’t as big in the US as elsewhere.matedog wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:06pmhttps://www.billboard.com/charts/billbo ... 1996-02-24101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 2:43pmFair enough just sounds like an odd description.matedog wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 2:30pmBecause that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 2:16pmWhy do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?matedog wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 10:47am
It's very interesting to see the US vs UK perspective. For me, Oasis had a couple songs I heard a bit on the radio in the mid-90's - Live Forever, Wonderwall, Champagne, Don't Look Back. But they were never huge here. Consequently, I think they were a fine little band with a handful of perfectly good songs I didn't mind hearing on the radio on occasion.
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
What’s the Story got to #4 on the US album charts.
They were just ahead of Bush and President of the United States of America. All three bands seemed similarly popular at the time.
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Ever since rock n roll began, it's been a firm rule that a band isn't really big until they break in America. The Beatles and the Stones certainly understood this. It's not a rule rooted in numbers but in reputation. The Gallaghers may have enough money for round-the-clock gardeners to take care of their eyebrows, but because Oasis never truly broke thru in America, they aren't big.101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:24pmYeah I get it I just disagree that one of the best selling bands in the world isn’t a ‘little band’ because they weren’t as big in the US as elsewhere.
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I’m surprised. I travel a bit and always listen to the radio and visit record shops but it seems to me the world is all listening to the same thing and the same few artistes (commercial charts etc) Ed Sheehan, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Beyoncé, Pink, *insert latest Boy band* etcDr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:05pmReally? Is this a recent development? I recall reading as recently as five years ago the segregation by nationality on both sides of the Atlantic.Silent Majority wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:03pmThe UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 3:55pmHere's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
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America is for Americans. Which might be for the best.101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:37pmI’m surprised. I travel a bit and always listen to the radio and visit record shops but it seems to me the world is all listening to the same thing and the same few artistes (commercial charts etc) Ed Sheehan, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Beyoncé, Pink, *insert latest Boy band* etcDr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:05pmReally? Is this a recent development? I recall reading as recently as five years ago the segregation by nationality on both sides of the Atlantic.Silent Majority wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:03pmThe UK charts are absolutely dominated by North American acts.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 3:55pmHere's the thing: Apart from the early 80s, when MTV was responsible for a second British Invasion, for the most part UK acts haven't made much of an impact on the North American mainstream music scene (emphasis on mainstream; indie and dance and other subfields, sure). And for the most part, American bands haven't had much of an impact on the UK charts. Cross-pollination is just a rare bird.
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I understand. I was trying to make it clear with my wording that it was purely my "perspective" and which was quite limited at the time to MTV and Washington DC rock radio stations.101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:24pmYeah I get it I just disagree that one of the best selling bands in the world isn’t a ‘little band’ because they weren’t as big in the US as elsewhere.matedog wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:06pmhttps://www.billboard.com/charts/billbo ... 1996-02-24101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 2:43pmFair enough just sounds like an odd description.matedog wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 2:30pmBecause that's how they seemed at the time. They had a couple minor hits, that's all, and then went away after a year or so. They had that All Around the World song I remember seeing the video a couple times after and then they were gone for good. Wonderwall made it to 8 on the charts and Don't Look Back to 55 and that's all they ever did in the states. To me, they were about as big as Alice in Chains or 311 (though those are weird comparisons).101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 2:16pm
Why do you say “fine little band” can’t you just say fine band without adding the dismissive ‘little’?
What’s The Story alone has sold over 20 million copies and is one of the best selling albums of all time (4th in UK history).
I have no idea how the album sales rank in the US because I can't find a list that goes beyond the top 100 or so. The disparity is dramatic.
What’s the Story got to #4 on the US album charts.
They were just ahead of Bush and President of the United States of America. All three bands seemed similarly popular at the time.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.
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Yep if only Oasis had sounded just a little more like The Beatles they may have been in with a shout.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:36pmEver since rock n roll began, it's been a firm rule that a band isn't really big until they break in America. The Beatles and the Stones certainly understood this. It's not a rule rooted in numbers but in reputation. The Gallaghers may have enough money for round-the-clock gardeners to take care of their eyebrows, but because Oasis never truly broke thru in America, they aren't big.101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:24pmYeah I get it I just disagree that one of the best selling bands in the world isn’t a ‘little band’ because they weren’t as big in the US as elsewhere.
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I think it’s obvious the real takeaway here is that only America matters and we only value the UK if they make music good enough for us to care.
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Ha! Ironies of ironies!Marky Dread wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 6:25pmYep if only Oasis had sounded just a little more like The Beatles they may have been in with a shout.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:36pmEver since rock n roll began, it's been a firm rule that a band isn't really big until they break in America. The Beatles and the Stones certainly understood this. It's not a rule rooted in numbers but in reputation. The Gallaghers may have enough money for round-the-clock gardeners to take care of their eyebrows, but because Oasis never truly broke thru in America, they aren't big.101Walterton wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 4:24pmYeah I get it I just disagree that one of the best selling bands in the world isn’t a ‘little band’ because they weren’t as big in the US as elsewhere.
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Don't abuse Mr. Shifty. He was not needed to suffix your statement.
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I submit that if I didn’t at least one subject of the queen would’ve responded with an indignant paragraph devoid of punctuation.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 6:39pmDon't abuse Mr. Shifty. He was not needed to suffix your statement.
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Unless they accompany it with a cool song, we on the proper side of the Atlantic are under no obligation to pay attention.Wolter wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 6:56pmI submit that if I didn’t at least one subject of the queen would’ve responded with an indignant paragraph devoid of punctuation.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 6:39pmDon't abuse Mr. Shifty. He was not needed to suffix your statement.
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Hello,Wolter wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 6:56pmI submit that if I didn’t at least one subject of the queen would’ve responded with an indignant paragraph devoid of punctuation.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 6:39pmDon't abuse Mr. Shifty. He was not needed to suffix your statement.
A proper paragraph consists of more than one sentence. I'm adding this sentence to make mine a proper paragraph.
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Im sure there are others (in the 90s) that put out good music but Citizen Fish is the only one coming to mind right now. But again nothing that would be classified as "classic".