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Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 11:37am
by Flex
Heston wrote:From Wiki:
A further limitation of the record is that with a constant rotational speed, the quality of the sound may differ across the width of the record because the inner groove modulations are more compressed than those of the outer tracks. The result is that inner tracks have distortion that can be noticeable at higher recording levels.
So that would suggest it's sort of the opposite of what b-boy was saying, no? I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 11:37am
by Flex
eumaas wrote:
Flex wrote:you said you were having some trouble with the English.
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Apparently, I was having more trouble with my own English.

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 11:39am
by Heston
Flex wrote:I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.
The Clash tried it with Dictator.

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 11:42am
by eumaas
Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.
The Clash tried it with Dictator.
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Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 11:43am
by Wolter
Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.
The Clash tried it with Dictator.
:lol:

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 11:44am
by Flex
Wolter wrote:
Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.
The Clash tried it with Dictator.
:lol:
And, of course, we all primarily remember Cut the Crap as a bold attempt at sequencing albums to maximize audio fidelity in relation to song quality. :shifty:

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 11:58am
by bazarboy75
Flex wrote:
Oh, no offense taken. I just meant if anyone else had any info they could elaborate since you said you were having some trouble with your English.
Thats' a good exemple of my bad english sometimes... I wanted to say that

No offense by me
right ?
And yeah i still got problem sometimes with my english
especially when i'm drunk :mrgreen:
Or more than anything when the discussion become a bit technical like about the vinyl stuff i don't know how you call the different part of it.
Bollock, asshole or stuff like is far easier for me to say :mrgreen:

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 12:03pm
by Dr. Medulla
Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.
The Clash tried it with Dictator.
The entire BAD oeuvre was Mick trying—failing—to replicate the amazing percussion on Dictator.

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 12:03pm
by bazarboy75
Flex wrote:
Heston wrote:From Wiki:
A further limitation of the record is that with a constant rotational speed, the quality of the sound may differ across the width of the record because the inner groove modulations are more compressed than those of the outer tracks. The result is that inner tracks have distortion that can be noticeable at higher recording levels.
So that would suggest it's sort of the opposite of what b-boy was saying, no? I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.
No that depend of what type of material you got.
It depend of the "arm" there is at least to type of arm (???)

What i was trying to say is about the sound

Think about it

Why the Dj used maxi vynil more than conventionnal LP ?
It's because more you need basse for the song more you need a large furrow

I've got to go

See you soon

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 12:04pm
by Heston
Dr. Medulla wrote:
Heston wrote:
Flex wrote:I guess it wouldn't have been practical to put the shittiest tracks first on the album though.
The Clash tried it with Dictator.
The entire BAD oeuvre was Mick trying—failing—to replicate the amazing percussion on Dictator.
:naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 12:06pm
by Flex
bazarboy75 wrote:No that depend of what type of material you got.
It depend of the "arm" there is at least to type of arm (???)

What i was trying to say is about the sound

Think about it

Why the Dj used maxi vynil more than conventionnal LP ?
It's because more you need basse for the song more you need a large furrow

I've got to go

See you soon
Could Wikipedia possibly lead us astray?!! :mrgreen:

The maxi vinyl example makes sense. Okay, this may require some actual research on my part.

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 12:24pm
by bazarboy75
Dr. Medulla wrote:
The entire BAD oeuvre was Mick trying—failing—to replicate the amazing percussion on Dictator.

WHO SAY THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 1:33pm
by Dr. Medulla
bazarboy75 wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:
The entire BAD oeuvre was Mick trying—failing—to replicate the amazing percussion on Dictator.

WHO SAY THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
An older boy told me to say it, sir.

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 10:02pm
by wmhp2
Im with dd on this...35-45 mins was ideal.
I hated taping an album on a C90 only to have one track forced onto side two of the tape.
Filler on an album isnt as much of an pain now as it was when you placed the needle on the first groove and listened to a whole side, forcing you to sit through the below avarage seconed last track that appeared on nearly every release.

Re: Albums, how long is too long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 10:35pm
by daredevil
wmhp2 wrote:Im with dd on this...35-45 mins was ideal.
I hated taping an album on a C90 only to have one track forced onto side two of the tape.
Filler on an album isnt as much of an pain now as it was when you placed the needle on the first groove and listened to a whole side, forcing you to sit through the below avarage seconed last track that appeared on nearly every release.
When I used to make cassettes of lp's, I could always find a song to edit out so that an album fit onto one side of a C90.
My biggest problem were with albums by the Jam. They were a bit too long to fit on one side of a C60 and way too short
to fit on one side of a C90; so I was always searching for singles and b-sides to fill out the tape.