What's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.Wolter wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:20pmI have noticed along with Toto, the general public is trying to rehabilitate Phil Collins as well. I am not here for this.
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Maybe people just long for the smooth, quaint days when Toto ruled the airwaves and turntables of America! Make Rock Great Again!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:29pmWhat's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.Wolter wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:20pmI have noticed along with Toto, the general public is trying to rehabilitate Phil Collins as well. I am not here for this.
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Okay so I'm in good company here. Where's JennyB, Tep and Beaner? I'd say Flex too but his love of Hootie and Dave Mathews undermines his credibility.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:29pmWhat's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.Wolter wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:20pmI have noticed along with Toto, the general public is trying to rehabilitate Phil Collins as well. I am not here for this.
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Those people should be exiled to Atlantis.WestwayKid wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 10:24pmMaybe people just long for the smooth, quaint days when Toto ruled the airwaves and turntables of America! Make Rock Great Again!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:29pmWhat's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.Wolter wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:20pmI have noticed along with Toto, the general public is trying to rehabilitate Phil Collins as well. I am not here for this.
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I've been waiting for Jenny to jump in on this whole Phil Collins thing!revbob wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 10:25pmOkay so I'm in good company here. Where's JennyB, Tep and Beaner? I'd say Flex too but his love of Hootie and Dave Mathews undermines his credibility.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:29pmWhat's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.Wolter wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:20pmI have noticed along with Toto, the general public is trying to rehabilitate Phil Collins as well. I am not here for this.
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It's interesting how some artists are chosen for rehabilitation and some are not. Why Toto? Is it simply because Weezer covered Africa and now it is kind of hip to say you like Toto? Last time I checked - Toto was still the domain of 50-somethings with mustaches who listened to the local classic rock station.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 7:30amThose people should be exiled to Atlantis.WestwayKid wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 10:24pmMaybe people just long for the smooth, quaint days when Toto ruled the airwaves and turntables of America! Make Rock Great Again!Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:29pmWhat's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.
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I'm guessing this thread has made her blind with rage, so typing a response is problematic.WestwayKid wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 7:57amI've been waiting for Jenny to jump in on this whole Phil Collins thing!revbob wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 10:25pmOkay so I'm in good company here. Where's JennyB, Tep and Beaner? I'd say Flex too but his love of Hootie and Dave Mathews undermines his credibility.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:29pmWhat's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.
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This is tangential but does deal with the idea of what's considered legit and not, but last Friday my class talked about hip hop. One of the articles was about the tricky path white rappers follow to gain credibility. Vanilla Ice is, of course, a key figure in that. One student asked whether VI was as big a joke at the time as he's regarded now. I assured him, no, it was legit big, a major crossover into the pop market. Outside of Weird Al, you don't sell millions of copies of a record as some kind of elaborate gag. The idea that VI was taken as a major star at the time seemed so unbelievable to the student.WestwayKid wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 10:02amIt's interesting how some artists are chosen for rehabilitation and some are not. Why Toto? Is it simply because Weezer covered Africa and now it is kind of hip to say you like Toto? Last time I checked - Toto was still the domain of 50-somethings with mustaches who listened to the local classic rock station.
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Ugly album cover...but I've always kind of liked this album. Not their best - but not terrible.
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I agree with this post.Wolter wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:20pmI have noticed along with Toto, the general public is trying to rehabilitate Phil Collins as well. I am not here for this.
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Sorry! I was out of the office yesterday. The office is where I usually engage in GNDA. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.revbob wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 10:25pmOkay so I'm in good company here. Where's JennyB, Tep and Beaner? I'd say Flex too but his love of Hootie and Dave Mathews undermines his credibility.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:29pmWhat's especially galling is that it's not in that too precious ironic Gen X way. Seeming sincerity is just contemptible.Wolter wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 9:20pmI have noticed along with Toto, the general public is trying to rehabilitate Phil Collins as well. I am not here for this.
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Surely, a large group of people must have seen him as quite corny though? Even I, at that age, preferred Hammer infinitely more than Mr. Van Winkle.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 10:30amThis is tangential but does deal with the idea of what's considered legit and not, but last Friday my class talked about hip hop. One of the articles was about the tricky path white rappers follow to gain credibility. Vanilla Ice is, of course, a key figure in that. One student asked whether VI was as big a joke at the time as he's regarded now. I assured him, no, it was legit big, a major crossover into the pop market. Outside of Weird Al, you don't sell millions of copies of a record as some kind of elaborate gag. The idea that VI was taken as a major star at the time seemed so unbelievable to the student.WestwayKid wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 10:02amIt's interesting how some artists are chosen for rehabilitation and some are not. Why Toto? Is it simply because Weezer covered Africa and now it is kind of hip to say you like Toto? Last time I checked - Toto was still the domain of 50-somethings with mustaches who listened to the local classic rock station.
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The gobs of people who bought the record? No way. He was the great white hope, bridging rap and pop, making pop cooler and rescuing rap from its racial confines. People who were seriously into hip hop saw him as a clown, but they weren't buying the record.Kory wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 1:26pmSurely, a large group of people must have seen him as quite corny though? Even I, at that age, preferred Hammer infinitely more than Mr. Van Winkle.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 10:30amThis is tangential but does deal with the idea of what's considered legit and not, but last Friday my class talked about hip hop. One of the articles was about the tricky path white rappers follow to gain credibility. Vanilla Ice is, of course, a key figure in that. One student asked whether VI was as big a joke at the time as he's regarded now. I assured him, no, it was legit big, a major crossover into the pop market. Outside of Weird Al, you don't sell millions of copies of a record as some kind of elaborate gag. The idea that VI was taken as a major star at the time seemed so unbelievable to the student.WestwayKid wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 10:02amIt's interesting how some artists are chosen for rehabilitation and some are not. Why Toto? Is it simply because Weezer covered Africa and now it is kind of hip to say you like Toto? Last time I checked - Toto was still the domain of 50-somethings with mustaches who listened to the local classic rock station.
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I’m not convinced. The view I had and those around me was that was a bit of a novelty track and so was he. Don’t recall it being taken seriously. In fact it is taken more seriously now by my kid’s generation who listen to some version of it ( I think it is a remix?) without having any idea of its origins or who sings it.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 1:41pmThe gobs of people who bought the record? No way. He was the great white hope, bridging rap and pop, making pop cooler and rescuing rap from its racial confines. People who were seriously into hip hop saw him as a clown, but they weren't buying the record.Kory wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 1:26pmSurely, a large group of people must have seen him as quite corny though? Even I, at that age, preferred Hammer infinitely more than Mr. Van Winkle.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 10:30amThis is tangential but does deal with the idea of what's considered legit and not, but last Friday my class talked about hip hop. One of the articles was about the tricky path white rappers follow to gain credibility. Vanilla Ice is, of course, a key figure in that. One student asked whether VI was as big a joke at the time as he's regarded now. I assured him, no, it was legit big, a major crossover into the pop market. Outside of Weird Al, you don't sell millions of copies of a record as some kind of elaborate gag. The idea that VI was taken as a major star at the time seemed so unbelievable to the student.WestwayKid wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 10:02amIt's interesting how some artists are chosen for rehabilitation and some are not. Why Toto? Is it simply because Weezer covered Africa and now it is kind of hip to say you like Toto? Last time I checked - Toto was still the domain of 50-somethings with mustaches who listened to the local classic rock station.