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Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 9:11pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 8:41pm
We pretend because of the super archaic concept that songwriting is lyrics and melody—nothing more.
More so, it's the continued elevation of the idea of individual genius, which sees the group (the social) as a detriment. The genius rises above the ordinary and thru force of will and inner ability creates. Human beings as divine. All the stuff that happens afterwards complicates if not ruins the great, singular idea of one amazing person. The history of art becomes much different if we think in terms of the social rather than the genius.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 9:35pm
by Kory
Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 9:11pm
Kory wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 8:41pm
We pretend because of the super archaic concept that songwriting is lyrics and melody—nothing more.
More so, it's the continued elevation of the idea of individual genius, which sees the group (the social) as a detriment. The genius rises above the ordinary and thru force of will and inner ability creates. Human beings as divine. All the stuff that happens afterwards complicates if not ruins the great, singular idea of one amazing person. The history of art becomes much different if we think in terms of the social rather than the genius.
Yeah it makes a cool story I guess, but it’s not real. On that same note I definitely think Bowie should have been splitting everything equally with whatever band he had on whatever record.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 10:01pm
by Wolter
But still the bassists should get like 15% less, right?
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 17 Oct 2019, 4:53am
by Marky Dread
Bloody hell over analyzing this. One bloke scribbles on a piece of paper and then shouts while the others bang and bash stuff.
All these so called genius writers that right down a load of nonsense then cut up the words in a different order.
Bah go get a real job.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 17 Oct 2019, 3:19pm
by 101Walterton
Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 4:53am
Bloody hell over analyzing this. One bloke scribbles on a piece of paper and then shouts while the others bang and bash stuff.
All these so called genius writers that right down a load of nonsense then cut up the words in a different order.
Bah go get a real job.
I guess every band / songwriter has a different way of doing it from developing a riff, a couple of lines of verse or chorus or even just experimenting with a new instrument.
The other end of the scale is someone like Elton John who gets given a sheet of lyrics (full credit to Bernie) but then creates a song from scratch.
Didn’t Mercury have the whole of Bohemian Rhapsody worked out in his head?
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 17 Oct 2019, 3:40pm
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 3:19pm
Marky Dread wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 4:53am
Bloody hell over analyzing this. One bloke scribbles on a piece of paper and then shouts while the others bang and bash stuff.
All these so called genius writers that right down a load of nonsense then cut up the words in a different order.
Bah go get a real job.
I guess every band / songwriter has a different way of doing it from developing a riff, a couple of lines of verse or chorus or even just experimenting with a new instrument.
The other end of the scale is someone like Elton John who gets given a sheet of lyrics (full credit to Bernie) but then creates a song from scratch.
Didn’t Mercury have the whole of Bohemian Rhapsody worked out in his head?
I think Freddie did have the bulk of it worked out. I think a band should share the royalties. If they are the band that are responsible for the recording. The Pistols shared the royalties which is great, Rotten would've been nothing without Cook, Jones and Matlock.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 17 Oct 2019, 7:44pm
by Kory
Wolter wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 10:01pm
But still the bassists should get like 15% less, right?
It’s long past time I switched to my second choice of instrument anyway. How much do you think vibraphonists get?
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 17 Oct 2019, 8:00pm
by Dr. Medulla
Kory wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 7:44pm
Wolter wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 10:01pm
But still the bassists should get like 15% less, right?
It’s long past time I switched to my second choice of instrument anyway. How much do you think vibraphonists get?
A moderate to serious beating, I would guess.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 17 Oct 2019, 9:49pm
by Inder
Kory wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 7:44pm
Wolter wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 10:01pm
But still the bassists should get like 15% less, right?
It’s long past time I switched to my second choice of instrument anyway. How much do you think vibraphonists get?
With good behaviour? I'd say about eight years.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 18 Oct 2019, 2:22am
by muppet hi fi
Inder wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 9:49pm
Kory wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 7:44pm
Wolter wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 10:01pm
But still the bassists should get like 15% less, right?
It’s long past time I switched to my second choice of instrument anyway. How much do you think vibraphonists get?
With
good behaviour? I'd say about eight years.
Oh jeez - what would Bill Wyman get?
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 18 Oct 2019, 4:39am
by Marky Dread
muppet hi fi wrote: ↑18 Oct 2019, 2:22am
Inder wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 9:49pm
Kory wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 7:44pm
Wolter wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 10:01pm
But still the bassists should get like 15% less, right?
It’s long past time I switched to my second choice of instrument anyway. How much do you think vibraphonists get?
With
good behaviour? I'd say about eight years.
Oh jeez - what would Bill Wyman get?
Well if he is a rock star.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 18 Oct 2019, 5:30am
by 101Walterton
Marky Dread wrote: ↑18 Oct 2019, 4:39am
muppet hi fi wrote: ↑18 Oct 2019, 2:22am
Inder wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 9:49pm
Kory wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 7:44pm
Wolter wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 10:01pm
But still the bassists should get like 15% less, right?
It’s long past time I switched to my second choice of instrument anyway. How much do you think vibraphonists get?
With
good behaviour? I'd say about eight years.
Oh jeez - what would Bill Wyman get?
Well if he is a rock star.
He has a residence
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 18 Oct 2019, 5:34am
by Marky Dread
101Walterton wrote: ↑18 Oct 2019, 5:30am
Marky Dread wrote: ↑18 Oct 2019, 4:39am
muppet hi fi wrote: ↑18 Oct 2019, 2:22am
Inder wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 9:49pm
Kory wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 7:44pm
It’s long past time I switched to my second choice of instrument anyway. How much do you think vibraphonists get?
With
good behaviour? I'd say about eight years.
Oh jeez - what would Bill Wyman get?
Well if he is a rock star.
He has a residence
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 11:41am
by WestwayKid
Time to give this ole' thread a bump.
If you worked for a record company and could reissue the back catalog of any band, who would it be and why?
I'd love to have a go at reissuing the back catalog of The Church. Their catalog is scattered across several record companies and has been reissued in fits and starts. First task would be obtaining the rights to reissue everything. Next step would be cleaning up the sound. Like many recently remastered albums, the ones I've heard have been compressed. They're a band that sounds excellent on vinyl and I'd try and pull that warmth out. No bonus tracks. Honestly, I'm not always a fan of bonus tracks. Save those for the deluxe edition. I like an album as originally issued. I also like including as much original artwork and packaging as possible. In the case of a band like The Church, decent liner notes are a must. I'd want to tell the story of each album.
Re: Music opinion/question of the week...
Posted: 11 Feb 2020, 12:01pm
by Dr. Medulla
Playing to the home crowd here, but I'd propose deluxe editions of the Clash catalogue, each studio record supplemented with one or two representative live discs. For a band who reputation rested in no small part on their shows, it seems the proper way of approaching the albums.
The other would be cleaning up and overhauling as much as possible Wire's Mute albums from the 80s. Good songs hindered by 80s production. Even replacing all the midi drums with real ones would go a long way to improving those records.