Yeah I get that. A heavier bombastic ELO.
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I said something very similar in a thread recently after watching a Jeff Lynne documentary.WestwayKid wrote: ↑20 Sep 2018, 9:37amI've been listening to Harrison's solo catalog over the past couple of days. I really did like Cloud 9 when it came out and I still do - but man, it sounds a lot like ELO - which called to mind a great post by Steve Hoffman:
Funny, I CAN'T STAND non-ELO Jeff Lynne produced records.
Why?
I'll tell you:
HE MAKES EVERYTHING SOUND LIKE ELO!!!!!!
He makes Tom Petty sound like ELO.
He makes Roy Orbison sound like ELO.
He makes George Harrison sound like ELO.
He makes the friggin' BEATLES sound like ELO on FREE AS A BIRD.
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Happy Friday with a little Electric Light Orchestra!101Walterton wrote: ↑20 Sep 2018, 3:48pmI said something very similar in a thread recently after watching a Jeff Lynne documentary.WestwayKid wrote: ↑20 Sep 2018, 9:37amI've been listening to Harrison's solo catalog over the past couple of days. I really did like Cloud 9 when it came out and I still do - but man, it sounds a lot like ELO - which called to mind a great post by Steve Hoffman:
Funny, I CAN'T STAND non-ELO Jeff Lynne produced records.
Why?
I'll tell you:
HE MAKES EVERYTHING SOUND LIKE ELO!!!!!!
He makes Tom Petty sound like ELO.
He makes Roy Orbison sound like ELO.
He makes George Harrison sound like ELO.
He makes the friggin' BEATLES sound like ELO on FREE AS A BIRD.
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Bands/musicians that didn't translate well across the Atlantic? Kind of an vague question - but thinking it could lead to some interesting discussions. I've always been interested in Bruce Springsteen, for instance. Growing up in a Rust Belt city in the 1980's - his imagery always hit home because it's what I saw growing up. How well did that message cross the ocean?
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I was going to mention this in the XTC thread that just started, but generally speaking bands that seem excessively English, that don't seem "cosmopolitan" enough, tend not to catch on in North America. XTC fits that bill, so did the Jam or Blur (notably, Blur's only success was "Song 2," which is very American sounding).WestwayKid wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 10:48amBands/musicians that didn't translate well across the Atlantic? Kind of an vague question - but thinking it could lead to some interesting discussions. I've always been interested in Bruce Springsteen, for instance. Growing up in a Rust Belt city in the 1980's - his imagery always hit home because it's what I saw growing up. How well did that message cross the ocean?
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Springsteen is pretty big over here. He sold out the football stadium near me aboiut 3 years ago, I could hear the bastard soundchecking from 3 miles away.WestwayKid wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 10:48amBands/musicians that didn't translate well across the Atlantic? Kind of an vague question - but thinking it could lead to some interesting discussions. I've always been interested in Bruce Springsteen, for instance. Growing up in a Rust Belt city in the 1980's - his imagery always hit home because it's what I saw growing up. How well did that message cross the ocean?
I don't think country music does too well over here, and is usually ridiculed.
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Even the Kinks have had their issues, though how much of that was down to Ray Davies having a bad time with the US in the late 60s abs throwing up his hands about it is probably up for debate.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 10:54amI was going to mention this in the XTC thread that just started, but generally speaking bands that seem excessively English, that don't seem "cosmopolitan" enough, tend not to catch on in North America. XTC fits that bill, so did the Jam or Blur (notably, Blur's only success was "Song 2," which is very American sounding).WestwayKid wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 10:48amBands/musicians that didn't translate well across the Atlantic? Kind of an vague question - but thinking it could lead to some interesting discussions. I've always been interested in Bruce Springsteen, for instance. Growing up in a Rust Belt city in the 1980's - his imagery always hit home because it's what I saw growing up. How well did that message cross the ocean?
Weirdly, for all my bitching about the limeys over the years, I usually love “English” sounding bands (the only exception out of the ones listed so far is Blur, but the Englishness is less a turnoff and more that I’m kind of unimpressed by them.
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How did REM do over there in the early 90s? I know the American and British 90s were almost two parallel decades in a lot of ways.Heston wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 11:13amSpringsteen is pretty big over here. He sold out the football stadium near me aboiut 3 years ago, I could hear the bastard soundchecking from 3 miles away.WestwayKid wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 10:48amBands/musicians that didn't translate well across the Atlantic? Kind of an vague question - but thinking it could lead to some interesting discussions. I've always been interested in Bruce Springsteen, for instance. Growing up in a Rust Belt city in the 1980's - his imagery always hit home because it's what I saw growing up. How well did that message cross the ocean?
I don't think country music does too well over here, and is usually ridiculed.
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Oh, just thought of one: the Manic Street Preachers seem fairly famous in the UK, but their American fan base is basically enough to have them play mid-range clubs. I mean, said clubs are packed with passionate fans singing along to every verse, but almost no one talks about them here otherwise.
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Springsteen was big here from the time of Born To Run. I think the message he was carrying, small town life with all its challenges is pretty transferable to most places and I think the fact that we tend to grow up here immersed in US culture on tv makes it easier to sink in. Least in my experience anyway.
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I was thinking about them when I wrote the original question. The times I've seen them in the US - they have been in small to mid-range clubs.Wolter wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 11:26amOh, just thought of one: the Manic Street Preachers seem fairly famous in the UK, but their American fan base is basically enough to have them play mid-range clubs. I mean, said clubs are packed with passionate fans singing along to every verse, but almost no one talks about them here otherwise.
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Fairly big from Green onwards, massive from Losing My Religion onwards.Wolter wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 11:24amHow did REM do over there in the early 90s? I know the American and British 90s were almost two parallel decades in a lot of ways.Heston wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 11:13amSpringsteen is pretty big over here. He sold out the football stadium near me aboiut 3 years ago, I could hear the bastard soundchecking from 3 miles away.WestwayKid wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 10:48amBands/musicians that didn't translate well across the Atlantic? Kind of an vague question - but thinking it could lead to some interesting discussions. I've always been interested in Bruce Springsteen, for instance. Growing up in a Rust Belt city in the 1980's - his imagery always hit home because it's what I saw growing up. How well did that message cross the ocean?
I don't think country music does too well over here, and is usually ridiculed.
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After the baffling popularity of “Wonderwall,” did Oasis maintain a sizeable fan base in the US or did the go back to being UK big only?
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They had fans, but again, not massive like in the UK.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 12:02pmAfter the baffling popularity of “Wonderwall,” did Oasis maintain a sizeable fan base in the US or did the go back to being UK big only?
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I saw them in Milwaukee when they toured "Don't Believe the Truth" and they were booked into a 2,450 seat theater - which I think looked pretty much sold out. It was a pretty solid show, but I don't think they were selling big venues in the US by that point.Wolter wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 12:11pmThey had fans, but again, not massive like in the UK.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 12:02pmAfter the baffling popularity of “Wonderwall,” did Oasis maintain a sizeable fan base in the US or did the go back to being UK big only?
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